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 Posted: 10 May 2021 05:24 am
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Help please...

Looking for prototype photos,
of narrow gauge Open Cab T-Boiler Shay.

I am hoping to kitbash a Bachmann On30 Shay,
and to prove 'conformity' I need a prototype photo,
to show that these actually existed somewhere in the world.

Many thanks for your help...

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 Posted: 10 May 2021 06:52 am
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Topless 2' in New Mexico ...  :cool:





From Google Images.




'Conformity' proven beyond all reasonable doubt !  :old dude:


:java: :mex:


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 Posted: 10 May 2021 09:28 am
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Peter

Google "Shay Locomotives.com" for a number of photos of the T-Boiler Shays,

for a challenge you could build one of the 4 left hand Shays, built for service in Mexico.

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 Posted: 10 May 2021 04:18 pm
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The photo shows #4 (Lima 1673)

that operated cabless after a roll-over accident,

and was converted to 3' in 1917 after the 1913 abandonment.




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This be the kind of thing you are after?

http://www.gearedsteam.com/shay/images/p/peytona_lbr_co_89-sn89=e78x6hs.jpg






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Can't tell for sure if this one has T-boiler, apparently also known as boot boiler,

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgReliaVAAUq3kY.jpg






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Oh, and if your lumber company needs an airplane,

here's a reference for that existing in the real world.


https://wvhistoryonview.org/catalog/035020


"F. Edwin Mower and Ben Alley,

in Front of the Mower Lumber Company's Plane,

Charleston, W. Va."




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and if your lumber company needs an airplane

Oh Lord!

Like things aren't hard enough with scales, gauges, finescale, tinplate, eras, steam,
diesel, command control, walk around, DC, DCC, prototype vs freelance and whatnot,

now you wants us to do obscure airplanes also... 

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:)

But who wouldn't want a pretty little Mower Lumber seaplane,

to go with their Mower Lumber Shay?


https://www.railpictures.net/photo/502077/


(hmm, I suppose the creative kitbasher,

could come up with a Mower Lumber Shayplane)





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Only a vertical boiler version, not a T-Boiler version.


Seems the loco frame was built like a bridge truss,

with the roof an afterthought.







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Many thanks for the photos and other information.

I posted the same question on Facebook and got this reply:

https://munrotramway.wixsite.com/mthg/locomotives

I hope this also helps others.

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 Posted: 11 May 2021 08:21 am
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I tried clicking on the link ^^ above.


It spent ages, using up my data, loading a ton of YouTube junk

& then  AFTER  all that happened, just said "Browser Not Supported"

Click  HERE  to 'upgrade' your out of date Browser (or something ?)


I don't click the  'I AGREE'  button on Ad. & Spam sites like F*c$B**%

I would be  VERY VERY WARY  as well, on clicking any 'upgrade  HERE' links

Unless it is from a  KNOWN  trusted source & not hackers or spammers


I'm told F*c$B**% is  GREAT  for drain-unblocking how to advice !

& where to buy expensive 'beauty products' from, but Trains ?

Pull the other one Suckerburger, it's got a whistle on it !


F*c$B**%s main objective is to KILL OFF all their 'competition'

Taking as much of your time & money in the process, of course !


Having said that, if F*c$B**%s sees this & wants an Ad. on Freerails

We'll take the money & maybe even grovel for it, if it's "telephone numbers" !

;)


Gerold, the very early vertical-boiler cabless Shay you Posted, is a PEACH !

That totally made my day, its lumber constructed chassis & all !

Nice links to the dudes top-notch 'Shay Site' as well.

:cool:


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I use Firefox (newest version) with the built-in blocking capabilities,

and had no problem in opening the site without any pop-ups etc.






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Helmut wrote:  
I use Firefox (newest version) with the built-in blocking capabilities,

and had no problem in opening the site without any pop-ups etc.


Same with Chrome.... and a simple free Adblocker....
 

I avoid FB like the plague....

But some of its pages may be viewed without being molested.


Eddie, what browser do you use? -

and I agree, I wouldn't click on anything there.




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I am sorry if you experienced problems trying to ope the link - I assure you it is a good link and loads fast.
Perhaps you have malware on your windows computer.
Be safe and use a MAC...!!



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I am sorry if you experienced problems trying to ope the link - I assure you it is a good link and loads fast.
Perhaps you have malware on your windows computer.
Be safe and use a MAC...!!



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Mmm  Mmm


Peter Peter

Double double post post

You you should should check check for for malware malware


I'm fine though !

Who said anything about DOSzzzing off with Bill's latest lash up ?

I'm being safe and using a MAC...!!




 
Even dummies like me can operate one !
They nicknamed me Albert, when I was a Beta-Tester for Texas Instruments.  :brill:





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I think I must have seen just about every 'oDd' Shay photo going.
The ONLY truly cabless or topless Shay I've ever seen, is in Post-2.

But that, by no means whatsoever, doesn't mean they didn't exist.
THEY DID !


If you were a 'back in the day' photographer, with 100s LBs of gear,
would you be looking to photograph rusty old wrecked T-boiler Shays ?

NO, of course you wouldn't !
Even the Kinsey brothers had 'priorities' as to what got photographed.


Shiny new Shays, with the logging company owner next to them, YES.
The one that got pulled out of a gulch, or had its cab caught fire, NO.

I suspect most sane photographers of the day would rather stay in town.
May get a shot of John Wayne riding down Main St. on a white elephant !


I would build the On30 model & get it finished as proof of 'conformity'.


:java::moose:


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Interesting write up on the Munro SHAYs,

certainly a different cab design then I've ever seen before.




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" certainly a different cab design then I've ever seen before "



I think one would really have to call that, a roof, rather than a cab.  :P

The small seat on the left is an interesting detail ...  L:

... but 'cabless' it isn't.  :f:



On30 dude, Steve Beck, built a 'cabless' model ...

... based on the Shay photos I put up, in Post No.2  :cool:

A very nice model it was too !  :thumb:



Just Do It !

(I think that's a trendy sneakers slogan !)  ;)


:java::moose: :dt:


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