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Posted: 20 Feb 2017 05:13 pm

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W C Greene
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What did they do? Is that a Shay boiler? The drive train isn't old Ephiram's design for sure! Actually, the above loco looks like a "Mason Bogie" with another engine under the bunker where a 3 axle truck would "normally" be. Whatever it is called, it looks like a dandy way to use a couple of the Bachmann 2-6-0's, provided smaller drivers could be used.
Just like it has been said-"There's a prototype for everything".

Woodie

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Posted: 20 Feb 2017 06:59 pm

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Yes! it is a SHAY boiler, LIMA SN #3185, #'s 3183 & 3184 were converted to 4-6-2s. Built for Estrada de Ferro Osete de Minas in 1922. Osete #302, believed converted in 1930 and
retired in 1930, apparently not a great success!. Only known
photo.
The two Pacific's faired a bit better, #339 converted in 1941, destroyed by boiler explosion 1955, #340 converted
1942, retired 1965, on display.

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Posted: 20 Feb 2017 07:53 pm

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1930, you say?
Hmm... the year the RC&RS is set in.
I say maybe one of those 2-6-6-2's made it's way to South Mississippi.I sure have enough Moguls to donate a couple to the bash.
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Posted: 20 Feb 2017 09:35 pm

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Ken, do you have the link to the original image? Looks like the one you posted is scaled.

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Posted: 21 Feb 2017 05:50 am

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White Pass & Yukon Pictures
scroll down to Narrow Gauge Export pictures

scroll down to 2-6-0+0-6-2

Bruce has collected a fair number of photos covering numerous wheel arrangements, so there are lots to look at.

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Posted: 21 Feb 2017 09:36 pm

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Well, it took some time but I found it.

Here is the link: http://narrowmind.railfan.net/Shay-Kitson-Meyer-Oestes.jpg
Not much more detail though.

For all the other stuff:
http://narrowmind.railfan.net/

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Posted: 13 Jun 2017 10:27 am

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Well ... the ol' Mogul reared it's ugly head the other day !

I got a good telling orf from Woodie :cb:

as well ... For sticking it's cab on my Porter ! :shocked:

He was right ... It did look pretty iffy ! :pimp:

The tender & razor-saw may well meet up at some point in the future as well.

I've had ideas & parts for a turntable of some sort for a while.

The plastic-sections are from a OO/HO kit by 'Wills' called a 'Vari-Girder Bridge'.

It has plastic RIVETED SECTIONS as well ! :bg:

I had drawn it in length as short as possible, modeled on an On30 Shay wheelbase.

But the Mogul converted to a 2-6-2T would need a longer turntable.

So I tried to re-figure the number of plastic-sections needed.

Si.

I have been looking at 2-wheel pony-trucks for a 2-6-2T.

A 2nd matching Bachmann one would be nice ... but ...

Mmm . . .

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Posted: 18 Jun 2017 11:28 am

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There are just TOO MANY cool

prototypes for a Mogul BASH !

Having become a bit obsessed by 2-6-2ST locos ...

... I came across this research pic.

Perhaps an 0-6-0ST loco would be a bit better for my 'compact' rolling stock line ?

Not having the 2 pony trucks to fit in at each end, really does save quite a bit of length.

Mmm ...

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Posted: 28 Jul 2017 08:03 pm

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Tri-ang Railways 2-6-0 Mogul

'Davy Crockett'

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Posted: 29 Jul 2017 03:54 am

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Pssst Si,

Want the coach to go with it?? Ask the right question??

It's a bit chipped and battered but its still almost all there..after 40 plus years.

Q: Why was Davy Crockett such a good scout??
A: 'coz he had 3 ears - a left ear, a right ear, and a wild front-ear :bg:

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Posted: 29 Jul 2017 08:13 pm

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Ken C wrote: ... and convert a Standard gauge 3 Truck Shay to a SHAY-Meyer 2-6-0+0-6-2T If heard in conversation I'd have said, even knowing the quirky stuff I know of, surely there's no prototype for that!
Umm, well ... :shocked:

(truth can be stranger than fiction - and there's some pretty strange fiction out there!)

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Posted: 29 Jul 2017 08:58 pm

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" truth can be stranger than fiction - and there's some pretty strange fiction out there! "

The truth IS out there . . .

" The king of the wild front ear ! "

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Posted: 29 Jul 2017 09:41 pm

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Why should I stay paranoid? Why are you telling me that?

How do I know I can trust your advice? Can you prove you aren't a disinformation agent?

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Posted: 3 Aug 2017 11:26 pm

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Hi Forrest

My information is dissed by MILLIONS usually !

Clearly 'dis' information.

I must do more research ...

... at least I could back up the B.S. with hard FACTS then !!

- - - - - - -

A case in point could be this latest eBay purchase ... Mmm ...

Slowly seeing what I might be able to do with my 2-6-0 Mogul ...

... I am still drawn towards a BASH into a 2-6-2T.

A bit like the 'down South' ones Duane documents in his Sonora book ...

... as being popular with Mehicos miners.

Anyways ... I kinda needed a pair of front/back ponies both the same so I thought.

No way was I gonna match the Bachmann On30 pony with another one.

So I clocked these nice heavy diecast ones, with insulated metal wheelsets on evilBay.

Outside bearings ... Mmm ...

In fact 2x the same, were original unused spares for the Tri-ang/Hornby Britannia loco.

Wha d' you guys fink ?

Any good for a go ??

:!:

Si.

Just trying to get the bits together, for a shop drawing attempt ! :brill:

Posted: 4 Aug 2017 12:16 am

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Looks fine to me. Reminds me of some ancient HO Mantua parts that are lurking in a box somewhere. I was gonna install one on my 0-4-2t...but when I look for something in particular, I end up finding something else and get "side tracked".

WCG

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