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 Posted: Sun May 22nd, 2016 12:12 am
   
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NevadaBlue wrote:
hmmm... we must be related because Bob was my Uncle too!

Mine Too :old dude:



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Keith Pashina wrote:


As to the ore cars, they were very simple examples of the best of 1880s technology.  The Gilpin ore cars were basically a riveted iron box that was bolted to wooden end platforms.  The side frames did not extend through or around the metal hopper body.  Many of these cars sagged in the middle after a while, and this shows up in some of the photos.



The Quote is from post 565
My Question:

Page 387 of 'Gilpin Era' the bottom caption mentions a C&S drawing of 25JUL1906 that includes various updates to the ore cars. Anyone have that drawing please?

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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 05:28 am
   
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HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEITH !No, I don't do facebook...

Mods to Gilpin cars...what year & what day of the week? LOL

Woodie



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 Posted: Thu May 26th, 2016 10:20 pm
   
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I will have  to severely chastise Woodie for not reminding me!

A VERY happy birthday, my friend, and thank you for all that you have contributed here at FreeRails

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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 04:53 am
   
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Happy belated birthday!



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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 08:36 am
   
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Well, life certainly has been making me busy the past couple of weeks, so I have some catching up on posts to do.

First, thank you to Michael for his discussion of how a Cornish pump would work, and also how the Hazeltine Mine pump remains are not typical of these pumps at all.

Second, Talmadge C 'TC' Carr posted about modified Gilpin ore cars. I don't have a copy of the Gilpin Railroad Era book nearby as I write this, but I think you are asking about two proposed cars for the Gilpin Railroad. These were drawings created by the C&S after their 1906 acquisition of the Gilpin Tram.

The first proposed car, that is, a drawing was created but we have no record that this was ever done, was to add a steel channel side sill the full length of the car. Since the ore cars had a tendency to sag in the middle, this would have really stiffened up the whole car it this had been done.

The second proposed car was an all-steel, larger capacity car with 20" diameter wheels. This car would have had all-steel end platforms and ore hopper, and yet still look much like the typical ore car, only bigger. This car also was never built.

I was given large size drawings by John Robinson several years ago. These were good quality scans of the originals, and were drawn to about 1 1/2" scale.  Talmadge's post reminds me that I need to get these scanned into a PDF so that they will be more useful.


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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 08:45 am
   
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And also, thank you for the birthday congratulations. I turned 60 this week, and my wonderful wife planned a trip for us to Colorado, where I am now. The first part of this week was spent hiking, and enjoying the scenery.  Today, we headed further south, and went through Gilpin County, and are staying in Idaho Springs.  During today's travels, we passed through Nederland. This town is near the south side of Boulder County, which adjoins Gilpin County to the south. Boulder County also was host to much mining activity, and the Denver, Boulder & Western narrow gauge, too.

A nice surprise in Nederland was the Nederland Mining Museum. Although officially closed until this weekend, the very helpful staff that was arranging some exhibits kindly let me in to explore the museum.


The Nederland Mining Museum has a nice collection of artifacts


The interior was nicely filled with local mining artifacts. They had a very nice two-cylinder single drum hoist on display


I really liked this portable air compressor. Although too modern for the real Gilpin Tram, there is no reason that one of these couldn't be on the layout in my model world


They also had this very impressive 1923 Bucyrus steam-powered shovel on display. This mined a local placer operation until 1978!  This was a very large shovel

It should be fun to see what adventures tomorrow brings.

Keith



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Cool stuff, and a really neat building too.



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 Posted: Fri May 27th, 2016 11:17 pm
   
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Cool. Nederland is our countryname (the Netherlands) in dutch. Many city and townnames in the US are originative of european (city) names so I guess that is also the fact here.

Alwin

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Howdy Keith...Nederland was (is) a neat place. Tell me, is the "ice man" still in the fridge there? That was an interesting "thing" in the late 60's. I remember the large pond or was it a lake? Very groovy stuff.

Woodie



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