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 Posted: 28 Aug 2012 04:23 pm
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Today, the Mogollon Railway took delivery of the last (hopefully?) locomotive.

As delivered, she's a little tight in the cab area and has some unwanted junk in the tender which will be replaced by some wanted junk.
What a cutie she is.





A nice new Bachmann On30 2-4-4-2 which will be "upscaled" to 1:35n2...quite soon!

I have to thank old Ray at the Favorite Spot.
I ordered this thing Saturday night and here it is today (Tuesday) by Priority Mail.





As can be seen, this loco is small and will look very nice hauling ore cars along with Garratt #4 and the funky Shays.

As time goes on, I will post more photos of her new cab and appliances.
I saw one of these run at the Outlaw meeting last Saturday and it runs very, very nicely.
Don't be afraid to spend the dinero on one, she can turn a 15" radius and maybe even less and don't look silly doing it either.

Woodie




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I'm very much looking forward to seeing it turned into a 1:35n2 scale engine.

If you can post some photos of that process that would be really cool too.

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Doesn't it come with optional stacks, head lights, and fuel bunkers ?



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Mike-I will show the transformation...I can't wait to get her fixed up.

Dave-yes, there are some extra parts in several bags.
I will use the capped stack, but the bell, whistle, etc. will be larger stuff than is there now.
And that DCC board...well, that's history already!

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 Posted: 30 Aug 2012 12:09 am
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No doubt about it, that's one neat hauler, right out of the box!


But it needs the WOODROW GREENE treatment. 

I can't wait to see what you do with it. 


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 Posted: 30 Aug 2012 10:56 am
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Mr Greene is a master of transformation.


It'll be a different lokie, that's for sure.

Maybe, just maybe, it'll have the same number of wheels.


I too, look forward to seeing another result of his magic.


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 Posted: 30 Aug 2012 01:10 pm
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Wow, might go round less than 15" Woodie ?

You reckoned your Shays LIMIT was 15"

So you reckon she'll beat the Shay on tight corners.
( no contest to the Porter's of course ).

Gonna need a new car-shop to work on that sweet-baby dude !
( should never have put that vacant lot into cactus production !!! )

Can't wait to see her chuggin'
( steam, that is, not cactus brew )

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Right now, I am getting new #7 "adjusted" for running on the line.

Not much is needed but I will need to trim a little off the driver gear covers since the covers tend to ride up a little on all the guardrails.
I ain't gonna remove gaurdrails (Mopman suggested that, but he runs a Class 1 diesel road)...
and I ain't gonna build new turntables.

The new loco plus tender is about 8 scale feet too long for the tt's so she will run forward and backward.
There were many roads that did this anyway.
That is why a little "tweaking" is needed, you know how some locos track better one way than the other, this one runs well both directions.
Just to be obstinate (25 cent word), I think that I will install a small "cowcatcher" on the tender.

Si- she runs around 15" radius and I suspect less.
I have one curve that was built back when I was running just Porters, and #7 tracks around that one...
it may be 13" or maybe a little less!

Hasta la vista and guten tag...

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Much better looking locomotive than the 2-6-6-2.

I cant wait to see what you will come up with...

and hoping the management wont be stingy with photographs of the build.





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Elminero is right...

MUCHO PHOTOGRAPHICO !!!

I can hear those flash-bulbs popin' already.

How about some O. Winston Link style pics of the Mogolon at dusk/night ?

"What the hell is this ? a request show or something ?"

Just a thought.

I found cigar-smoke & halogen flash-lights are quite good for that authentic N&W in the 50s' look !

Now an RC flash-bulb detonator...
...Mmmm...
...sounds like fun !

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OK, you want more?

I hope you are ready for all this!





First, the locomotive was rewired, the 4 wire plug was dumped and the 2 pin connector was wired to the motor leads.

Remember that all the "junk in the trunk" was pitched, leaving the next part:





The tender frame was "modified" so the proper equipment could be fitted.
The tall bosses were ground off and the speaker was tossed also.

After all this work, I decided that I will build a new wider tender frame
(remember that this is 1:35 scale now) and the tank will sit atop like usual.





Here is the new equipment for the tender, a Kyosho board (a LOSI could fit also) and a hunky 1300 mAh 7.4 Volt Li-Poly battery.

I found that the weight of the battery along with the weight of the die cast tender frame weighs almost as much as the loco does.
Since I want this loco to haul cars up a 10% grade, I have opted for a lighter frame (mentioned above).

 I installed Miniatronics 2-pin plugs for the battery and motor connections,
the receiver crystal is wired so it can be placed in the tender easier,
and the antenna (with the spade lug) will just sit on the tender deck.

The on/off switch will be installed on the front of the oil bunker for access.





The tender body was whacked on a good bit.

I cut off the faring along the top of the tender which makes it look a bit more like what I wanted.
The oil tank was sectioned down a bit also, I felt it was too long for this loco.
Just some cutting and sanding and it's a done deal.




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Hi Woodie

It's looking cool.
Just one question...
...just for an idea of size...
...how big is the battery ?

( we're ALWAYS ready for MORE ! )

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Si- battery dimensions:

Length- 2 5/8"
Width- 1 3/8"
Height (thickness)- 9/16"

Does that help?




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Hi Woodie,

The engine looks good.

Have you by any chance measured the drivers to see what the prototype size was?

The 2-4-4-2 prototype I would like to make a copy of used 44" drivers.

Thanks


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Bill-no, I haven't measured driver diameters...do you want 1:87, 1:48, 1:35, 1:32, or some other scale?
Or how about inches? In that case, they are 21/32" diameter.
All I know is that they look great and the loco runs superbly whether on antique power or r/c.

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Woodie,

Thanks, inches is fine, that comes out to about 33" in 1/48.

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Moving along now, some progress to report:





Here's a side view of the 2-4-4-2 with new cab, bell, whistle, Mogollon style headlight (still thinking about that one), and much modified tender.





This view shows how little she actually is.
The cab is indeed a skull cracker but is in line with the other locos, the red wooden window frames will be worked on a bit more.
Still more to do...pilot beam & steps, wooden running boards, junk on the running boards, weathering, crewmen, etc., etc.





The tender was the most radical modification.
A new wooden frame, tank lost the top ridge, oil tank shortened.
The tender trucks are stock.
Stuff will be loaded upon the tender deck as well as number/reporting marks.

As can be seen, the loco and tender now have l & p couplers so #7 is considered "in service" even though she ain't finished.




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I'm sure that you didn't extend it, but that area between the pilot beam and the boiler front looks too long.

Needs a ping-pong table, or perhaps a billiards table to justify the length.

Or cots, for nappy-time for the crew

Something----anything---


Like the rest just fine though!


Herbacide 




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Herbie- agree about the porch but the lead wheel is to blame.
I will make the best of a "situation".

Now, that cab that I built is...GONE!
It seemed OK in reality, but in photos, it looked like homemade s%^&.
Oh well, I just cut up some brass sheet and square tubing and soldered together a new one.
This cab matches what is on the Garratt, Shay #5, and the Porters and when painted, it should do fine.
Also, it is not a skull cracker, a fellow can actually stand up inside it.





A nice evening of metal work and riveting and here it is.
No wood frames, but probably a wooden arm rest will be added.

Now what  ???




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