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'Coon Gap Sawmill' - In 'O' Scale - Can Anyone Help ?
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 Posted: 11 Mar 2011 09:33 pm
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A very number of years ago I fell in love with the Coon Gap Sawmill as a kid. I always dreamed of having and would even draw it on paper to pass the time. Now that I am older I have looked at purchasing one of these museum quality pieces. I model in On30 scale so Since around 2005 I have been looking online for an O scale Coon Gap Sawmill. 6 years later and countless hours of searching eBay and other stores still nothing. It seems near impossible to find one and it has been a person quest of mine to build one. My question to ya'll is ANYONE had a set of plans, templates or insteuctions they would be willing so scan, sell.. anything! O scale or HO. Like the templates that came with the kit or instructions. I have all but given up on trying to buy a original kit and probably the only way to have one is build my own. Any sort of help would be a huge step for me to owning or building one. Thanks guys!!

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 Posted: 16 Mar 2011 12:12 am
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well cascademan i can assure you your not alone in your search for an O scale coon gap sawmill.  I can also tell you that your looking for a needle in a haystack as only 50 O scale versions were made and sold by B T S.

I can also tell you that the original HO version kit by master creations...later B T S, is supposed to be a nightmare and to quote one DOUG COFFEY he probably could have scratch built it easier.

I did manage to obtain a kit in O scale from a guy in california 2-3 years ago, problem is that half the kits parts were missing, so it got returned.  Not sure if all the plans were there and i never thought about copying the plans at that time.  I was trading the seller about $900 worth of yorke kits.

I made the contact with the seller thru the yahoo group....yorke kits with a wanted specific post in the group. I forget exactly WHO the seller was...bob walther ???? in southern california.

Somewhere stored on a cd are digital pictures of the only O scale one i have ever seen built up and it was called WEST or EAST CHOP . I believe it was either an english, auzzie or new zealand travelling exhibition layout complete with  sound. Builder did a great job.  Couldn't find those pics on any cd's.

Here is a thought for you.....buy the HO kit thats readily available on ebay and copy it by using it as a  pattern for an O scale scratch built blow up.  Make sure the kit is sealed. If you buy the #85 SE edition with the lights and sound computer boards.  After its scratch built sell the kit off less the computer sound boards.   There is currently one on ebay a S E edition for sale at $516 i think.  In O scale you might touch that kit for $1000 i would think, as less than 10 were made.

 



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 Posted: 16 Mar 2011 09:03 pm
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Thats a great idea.. Thank you! I never thought about that. Yeah I gave up a LONG time ago trying to find the O scale Coon Gap. It is such an interesting kit and I must have one! Now I am in the process of possibly saving up to buy an HO kit (not loose change!). I'll let you know if I purchase one and keep you up to date!

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 Posted: 16 Mar 2011 10:08 pm
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I remember the first time i saw the december isssue of ?? magazine and that full colour full page advert drove me nuts, had to have one, made the telephone call too Master Creations in arizona  right then and there. !!!!  I also phoned fine scale miniatures that day for their latest too.

As i typed in "coon gap sawmill" into my search engine earlier today, it was amazing how many different places in model railroad groups had talked about the kit. You may want to follow some of those links and maybe mention in a REPLY post , after you join them, that your looking for one and see where that takes you.

Its my understanding, i did own a HO scale one never opened it, that this is a bear to understand the instructions.  One of the reasons i sold ""all"" of my master creation laser kits was the difficulty i had doing the #40 rutherford b haynes carriage company. The instructions were nuts and i basically just looked at the kit pictures and assembled it from those.  Not an easy task but i did accomplish it.  Maybe thats why i am an accomplished scratch builder.

IF you were able to find the instructions for the O scale kit or a copy of them, its my understanding that the S & O scale instructions were done by BTS and are far superior to the ones written by master creations.

I did see that a builder in one of those links..was RAILROAD LINE FORUM ) in a post.....R T BARON said he had an O scale kit he was going to build.  I would make a concerned effort to find and contact him and ask him to copy the plans and pay him for them.

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 Posted: 17 Mar 2011 09:01 am
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here is a link to the railroad line forum discussion on the coon gap.

http://www.railroad-line.com/discussion/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=30876&whichpage=1

 

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A little understanding about basic mill type construction, and a picture of what you want to build, some strip wood (if you don't have a way to cut your own) and glue,
(Titebond II recommend) and some determination is all you need.

No reason to spend ridiculous amounts of money--UNLESS you want to pay someone else to build one for you- but then, where is the sense of pride and accomplishment?

Scratch building IS NOT difficult. The only thing you get is all the supplies in one box, a plan (not necessary unless you are building an exact copy of a specific item) and instructions-in this case that seem to be of questionable help. Is that worth insane amount of money?



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 Posted: 17 Mar 2011 08:49 pm
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As a further afterthought, i ran across some pictures of the SLASH BURNER that BTS made afterwards for the coon gap sawmill. Was a great kit , i had one and i see on BTS site that he is planning to offer them again in s and o.......but i think that notice of ***its coming***, has been on his site for 2-3 years.

 

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I actually ran into all my CD stored pictures on the COON GAP SAWMILL from various sources. I also found the name of that O scale build i was looking all over for........its from england. Google :ONE CUT MILL & LUMBER OR

STEAMWINDERS AND SAWDUST in the THREE CHOP HIGHLANDS .

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WOW! That's some fantastic modeling! I got a hold of the guy whom had the O scale Coon Gap. He said the kit didn't come with templates at all and didn't send instructions so no luck there :td:. Someday I will order a HO scale kit when I get the money. I just got laid off so no time soon... :( Thanks for those photo those!! I added them to the collection :).

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I found i actually have a total collection of 38 pictures on the built up coon gap saw mill, by about 6 builders. No idea what scale they are, except the one set.

see the next 3 pages of posts for pictures

mike


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I have never seen pictures of whats around on the other 3 sides of this TRAIN SHOW LAYOUT, but picture below shows other sides but i never got any ****close up *** detailed coverage of it.

If anybody looking at this has pictures of the rest of this travelling layout structures SCENES, it would be greart to post them here .  Or a way to contact the builder in ENGLAND.

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