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 Posted: Thu Jan 9th, 2020 05:08 pm
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Joseph Lavender
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Greetings!

I’d mentioned this project a while back in my thread on my Nn3 D&RGW layout,
and I thought it was time to give you folks an update.

It’d taken a few months to get everything together,
and to build up some inspiration.

I’m primarily a ship modeler, and those projects take some time,
and while I’m knee-deep in building the battleship HMS Ramillies,
I figured doubling up on the projects wouldn’t hurt anything.


The concept for the layout is a shadow box style mini-layout,
featuring the tight curves of the SCPA&M, measuring about 8” deep and 20” across.

The wood has been cut, the box assembled, glass has been cut, not yet installed.
Currently I’m deciding on how I want to build the electrical and sound systems.
Of course we have to have sound!


I’m scratch-building the equipment, and the locomotive will be Shay #2,
since I was able to find good drawings of that particular unit.

I’ve had to extrapolate some of the details,
as the plans and the photos aren’t always similar.
I’m sure you’ll forgive me.

The locomotive is nearly finished.
I need to install the roof, and finish detailing the top of the boiler,
then it’s off to the paint shop. 


Of course this is a non-working Shay.
The power will come from a powered boxcar.

Sadly no photos of the boxcar the SCPA&M had seem to exist, which is very good for me,
as it will have to be ever so slightly longer than what the prototype probably was,
to accommodate the gear train and motor.

The boxcar must be 35mm long or 25’.
Sadly I just can’t get around this, because if I could shorten it I certainly would.
This is my one big sacrifice and I’m sure I’m more bothered about it than any of you are!
Tell me it’ll be okay!


The ore cars will be to scale thankfully,
and I need to mention my friend Jesse over at CCE Models,
for drawing out and 3D-printing my 2’ gauge arch-bar trucks.

I had originally built a prototype from scratch,
but it was far too fragile even though it looked the part.
They would have failed quickly I’m sure.

Jesse was able to replicate the trucks exactly how I wanted,
and through his wizardry, I’ll have the train standing tall in that regard. 





As it stands now, I’m ready to start major construction.

I’d certainly welcome input from anyone who has information on the SCPAM.
I’ve read Mr. Ericson’s book, and it’s absolutely invaluable!

I’d welcome modern photos of the area if anyone has them.


We own a summer home north of the line up near Acoma Pueblo,
so I’m very familiar with the lay of New Mexico,
but contemporary photos would be great.

I need to get down there next time I’m in NM and see the old right-of-way,
and of course welcome a travel buddy if anyone lives in the area.


More updates to come shortly!

J.


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W C Greene
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Incredible!
The SCPA&M in Zn2 !!

It was hard enough for me to build what I could in 1:35n2.

There is my thread here on Freerails about my effort,
I tried to include what I thought were the most interesting scenes (to me).


Here is a shot of the smelter at Silver City, a model in my scale would take up almost the entire back yard!





Here you see the slag pile right behind the 7 stall enginehouse, with models of the foundry and machine shop.


SCNG author Duane Ericson sent me drawings of what he knew about track arrangements here,
there is some dual gauge (standard gauge AT&SF, and the 2 foot SCPA&M).

The red oxide ore cars are copies of the SC's cars.

The "mysterious" box car you are building,
has been described as being made of "corrugated metal",
which would appear to resemble such a car used on sugar cane lines,
but then another source believes it was wood.
My take on it is seen next to the machine shop on the dual gauge track.

Whatever you do I am sure that even nitpickers can't holler,
since nobody now living has ever seen the car,
and besides, it's your version...who's gonna gripe?!

PS-that slag pile was NOT my favorite thing to model,
but it was part of the scene so.....

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Hi Joseph  :wave:



I have to say I am a BIG ! fan of lil' railroads ...  :old dude:

... like the 'Gilpin Tram' & 'Silver City, Pinos Altos & Mogollon'.  :thumb:


I never thought I'd see them modelled in Zn2 scale though !!  :shocked:  :shocked:  :bow:  :bow:


It all looks AWESOME so far.  :)

Don't loose the loco ... Or pick it up & pocket it with your coins though !  ;)

The trucks must have been some crazy 3D-print.  :brill:  :Crazy:

So you are actually making everything for 2.77mm gauge, or thereabouts ?  L:



:moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:



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Thanks for the info Woodie.

I’ve read your thread through probably 5 or 6 times so far!
It’s great to see someone’s take on a prototype,
and it gives me some ideas on how I want to proceed.

I wish I could make the boxcar power-car smaller,
and it’s really bothering me.
 
But since I’m going to start building it today or tomorrow,
I need to decide on how I’m going to do it.

Wood seems more likely to me,
but I do have some scale corrugated plate I made for another project,
so that’s tempting me.
Maybe I’ll build both and see which wins out.



Greetings Si.

Yep, everything will be 2’ gauge Zn2.
I absolutely love building things as small as I can.

I have a website for my micro-sized ship models,
at http://www.josephlavender.com,
if you’d like to see what I’m up to there.


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Howdy Joseph,

I believe that the "corrugated" boxcar was listed in the scrapper's inventory
(read somewhere in Duane's book) so that might be OK.

I believe my metal version is about 22' long so 25' ain't too far off.
I say go for it!
I just had to have a riveted metal car...just to be different.

Hmmm...now I'm thinkin' (a bad thing to do) that I need such a boxcar to add to the "ops scheme".
Of course now I am modeling a fictional 2 footer down in Texas' Big Bend area along the Rio Grande,
which got cast off equipment (#'s 1 & 2 Shays, ore cars, the caboose, and mysterious boxcar from Silver City).
Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it...for now at least.

Have fun and run a train today...but don't sneeze with those teeny Zn2 lokies!

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Thanks Woodie,

I wasn’t able to start the boxcar power car this weekend,
but I’ve been thinking about how I want to do it.
Still not sure but I have some ideas.

The detail on Shay 2 is done and she’s ready for paint.
I have some airbrush work to do on one of the battleship models tomorrow,
so I’ll move her into the paint shed too.

I really need to get busy on building the layout.
I think once I start, I’ll be more motivated to keep plugging along.
Lately I’ve been very start/stop on this project.


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Great looking Shay!
Can’t wait to see how it turns out.

I do have some pics of the former ROW near Pinos Altos on my phone,
from the last visit to Silver City.

But I’ve been having trouble loading them onto Freerails.

Carry on!




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I’d love to see them!

You can use https://postimage.org/ to upload them.



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" I have a website for my micro-sized ship models "


Hi Joseph  :wave:



Don't forget, we have a  'Photography' Forum  here at Freerails.  :bg:


If it aint fitting in any of the trains & critters Forums ...  :us:

... ships, racing cars, moon rockets etc. can sail, zoom & blast off, into that Forum !  :cool:



I totally LOVE ships !  :thumb:



:)



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