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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 02:04 am
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And yes, there IS a 1:35 scale ruler available!
Search here on FR (search feature)...some time back, I found them and posted a link.
Or just look the scale rule up on Google...as I recall, they were very expensive...a good bit under $5 USD.
How about this, print off one of those guys in 1:35 scale and see how your little lokie looks then.
I'll bet you will find what you want.

Woodie


***Maybe try 8.25MM = 12"...that way HO/On30 gauge becomes 2 foot gauge.





The red/yellow thing is an HO scale NMRA gauge which shows that in 1:35 scale, 16.5MM gauge is in fact 24" gauge.




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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 04:32 am
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Ok, so I am getting my terms wrong. 1/35 scale.

And so, I don't need a perfect plastic scale. I will simply do some math and make a paper scale for my models.

Boy, this whole modeling experiment just keeps getting weirder.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 06:32 am
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Something that worked for me when started with my cocktail of 1/35 to 1/32 stuff,
was to keep at hand reach a figure in each scale.

I rarely measure anything but whatever I intend to add to the layout,
must please the eyes when confronted with those figures. :us:


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" Ok, so I am getting my terms wrong "



Hi T.G.B.  :wave:



Just to be clear.
I'm not one to tell anyone off' for getting 'terms' wrong.  :old dude:

But plain straight MATHS ... YES !

" 35mm scale " ... Sounds like a new film from Kodak(TM) maybe ...  ;)

... or a European Standard water-pipe.  ???





As I said on the previous << Page, having a TRUE SCALE figure to test your 'eye' & 'builds' by ... is THE LAW.  :shocked:

An automobile, truck or horse etc. would work well too.

A scale-rule can tell you how things 'measure', but NEVER if they are gonna look RIGHT.  L:



It's no good 'approximating' either in my view & ending up with cumulative errors over longer measurements etc.  :f:

Getting freelance scratchbuilt stuff to come out the 'right' size, is even more tricky than prototype modelling.

At least with something like the Gilpin caboose, you KNOW it's 14' long & what size wheels it has ... PERIOD.  :P

When concocting 'freelance' models, you do have to be careful not to break your own 'rules'.  L:





This might seem oDd or 'wrong' to some people, but I make fundamental 1:35 scale calculations all the time.

My method, in combination with 'actual' figures & autos etc. rarely lets me down.  :)

And YES back in the day, in HO, 1:48 & 1/2" scale, I made monumental cock-ups in scale sometimes !  :f:



1:35 scale

304.8mm / 35 = 8.7085714mm per Foot

x14' long Gilpin caboose = 121.92mm

( I'd call that 122mm since I don't actually have a pine-cone, you know where ... )  ;)



The thing is for me, is that when I cut my main car underframe beams ...

... I wanna know how long they REALLY are in 1:1 mm.

Some people might prefer knowing this in fractions of an Inch ie. 'a bit over' 4 3/4" !

Or easier to calculate decimal-fractions of an Inch, which just happens to be EXACTLY 4.800" !



Despite not having that pine-cone, I always use ALL seven decimal-places on my pocket-calculator ...

( a lovely vintage American 'Rockwell' red L.E.D. model I rather like, despite making the Energizer Bunny very happy ! )  :cool:

... when doing something like an overall carbuild or a structure dimension.



For smaller stuff like doors, windows, benches & figures etc. ...

... I'd be satisfied knowing that 8.7mm x 6' = 52.2mm ... OR ... 2.055' metric Inches.

... the EXACT height of Wolfy, my 1:35 scale 'crash test dummy' !





So in fact, I didn't actually need my modellers 1:35 scale-rule, for any of that at all ...
... It is WAY WAY WAY easier ( for me at least ) to convert 1:35 dimensions, to 'real world' 1:1 mm.  :brill:



:moose:



Si.



My bench ...  :Crazy:

... engineers-rules, calipers, graph-paper etc. etc.  :shocked:

But a 1:35 modellers 'scale-rule' ?  ???

Nowhere to be seen !  :us:







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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 10:45 am
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I love your work, Si!!!:2t:

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Ok all good info.

That was the original goal on my end. I built my loco according to the proportions that looked right.

And this is why I am now deciding to change scales. It has to look right to the eye.

Thus the key is merely this simple equation:

1:35 scale

304.8mm / 35 = 8.7085714mm per Foot

x14' long Gilpin caboose = 121.92mm

Or, 8.7 X 6 makes Gigi Buffon roughly 52mm tall!

I think a journey to the local hobby store for a grip of 1/35th scale people is in the works.
Never did locate a source for 28mm that would look right.

The Loco came out to 38mm wide as is/was.
It's clearly not a HO model, but something else.

And when I added the extra stripwood to my train cars they ended up at 38mm wide too.
So my trains are at 4.36 feet wide.
This is now a bit small...

OOoooofffffff.... I should never have tried to do a "Prototype" build!




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And then I looked at other 1/35th scale layouts on here.

Will I be needing a scale rule if I want one of these on my layout too?







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" Gigi Buffon roughly 52mm tall "


Hi T.G.B.  :wave:


Gigi Buffon is actually 54.428571mm tall !  :old dude:  (_!_)



" So my trains are at 4.36 feet wide. This is now a bit small "  :f:



Not really ...  :)

... The Gilpin Tram had flat-cars about this width & so did the Maine S.R.& R.L. ...





... also the Gilpin Tram ore-cars are about that width or a tad wider as well ...





... a 'Tri-ang' HO ore-car is a DEAD RINGER for a 1:35n2 Gilpin ore-car ( pretty much ) ...

... that HO ore-car you Posted a photo of a while back, looked pretty useable/moddable as well.



It might be that jumping to 1:35 will be TOO BIG a leap in scale, if you just want a figure to suit your loco ...  ???

... it might be that a 1:48/On30 figure at 1 1/2" high, would stand well next to your loco.



Decisions ... decisions ... Mmm ...  L:



Oh well ... Once you are sorted on scale etc. ...

... then all that wondering & guess-work etc. is behind you & it's FULL THROTTLE all ahead ...

...  s  l  o  w  ;)



:moose:



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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 04:18 pm
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I just can't do On30. Call it a quirk. It has to be 2' or 3'.

And it has to be home made.

It is just going to have to be 1/35th scale mini layout with 15" radius curves and small locos and stock.





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 Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 11:50 pm
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No, you can get around 1:35 scale without a scale ruler.
Do what Daniel and I do...get a couple of 1:35 scale figures, they can be soldiers or whatever, and use them to "set the scale".
I don't even use a scale ruler but have a couple just so I can say that I measure stuff correctly (yeah, right).
I included the photo of the 1:35 scale ruler and an HO standards gauge just because years ago,
some fellow posted that I "should" be modelling 1:36.759 scale or some such s%^t to make the gauge correct.
But then those who worry about correct-ness never seem to build anything except fantasy.
The use of a scale figure helps to determine things like door heights, roof heights, things like that.
When I modeled in HO and O scale, I did have scale rulers but never used them, a figure or two did the job.

Woodie



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