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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 02:04 am |
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W C Greene
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And yes, there IS a 1:35 scale ruler available!
Search here on FR (search feature)...some time back, I found them and posted a link.
Or just look the scale rule up on Google...as I recall, they were very expensive...a good bit under $5 USD.
How about this, print off one of those guys in 1:35 scale and see how your little lokie looks then.
I'll bet you will find what you want.
Woodie
***Maybe try 8.25MM = 12"...that way HO/On30 gauge becomes 2 foot gauge.
The red/yellow thing is an HO scale NMRA gauge which shows that in 1:35 scale, 16.5MM gauge is in fact 24" gauge.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 04:32 am |
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Ok, so I am getting my terms wrong. 1/35 scale.
And so, I don't need a perfect plastic scale. I will simply do some math and make a paper scale for my models.
Boy, this whole modeling experiment just keeps getting weirder.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 06:32 am |
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Something that worked for me when started with my cocktail of 1/35 to 1/32 stuff,
was to keep at hand reach a figure in each scale.
I rarely measure anything but whatever I intend to add to the layout,
must please the eyes when confronted with those figures. 
Magoo
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 10:27 am |
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" Ok, so I am getting my terms wrong "
Hi T.G.B. 
Just to be clear.
I'm not one to tell anyone off' for getting 'terms' wrong. 
But plain straight MATHS ... YES !
" 35mm scale " ... Sounds like a new film from Kodak(TM) maybe ... 
... or a European Standard water-pipe. 
As I said on the previous << Page, having a TRUE SCALE figure to test your 'eye' & 'builds' by ... is THE LAW. 
An automobile, truck or horse etc. would work well too.
A scale-rule can tell you how things 'measure', but NEVER if they are gonna look RIGHT. 
It's no good 'approximating' either in my view & ending up with cumulative errors over longer measurements etc. 
Getting freelance scratchbuilt stuff to come out the 'right' size, is even more tricky than prototype modelling.
At least with something like the Gilpin caboose, you KNOW it's 14' long & what size wheels it has ... PERIOD. 
When concocting 'freelance' models, you do have to be careful not to break your own 'rules'.
This might seem oDd or 'wrong' to some people, but I make fundamental 1:35 scale calculations all the time.
My method, in combination with 'actual' figures & autos etc. rarely lets me down. 
And YES back in the day, in HO, 1:48 & 1/2" scale, I made monumental cock-ups in scale sometimes !
1:35 scale
304.8mm / 35 = 8.7085714mm per Foot
x14' long Gilpin caboose = 121.92mm
( I'd call that 122mm since I don't actually have a pine-cone, you know where ... )
The thing is for me, is that when I cut my main car underframe beams ...
... I wanna know how long they REALLY are in 1:1 mm.
Some people might prefer knowing this in fractions of an Inch ie. 'a bit over' 4 3/4" !
Or easier to calculate decimal-fractions of an Inch, which just happens to be EXACTLY 4.800" !
Despite not having that pine-cone, I always use ALL seven decimal-places on my pocket-calculator ...
( a lovely vintage American 'Rockwell' red L.E.D. model I rather like, despite making the Energizer Bunny very happy ! ) 
... when doing something like an overall carbuild or a structure dimension.
For smaller stuff like doors, windows, benches & figures etc. ...
... I'd be satisfied knowing that 8.7mm x 6' = 52.2mm ... OR ... 2.055' metric Inches.
... the EXACT height of Wolfy, my 1:35 scale 'crash test dummy' !
So in fact, I didn't actually need my modellers 1:35 scale-rule, for any of that at all ...
... It is WAY WAY WAY easier ( for me at least ) to convert 1:35 dimensions, to 'real world' 1:1 mm. 
Si.
My bench ... 
... engineers-rules, calipers, graph-paper etc. etc.
But a 1:35 modellers 'scale-rule' ?
Nowhere to be seen !
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 10:45 am |
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Daniel Osvaldo Caso
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I love your work, Si!!!
Daniel
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 03:10 pm |
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Ok all good info.
That was the original goal on my end. I built my loco according to the proportions that looked right.
And this is why I am now deciding to change scales. It has to look right to the eye.
Thus the key is merely this simple equation:
1:35 scale
304.8mm / 35 = 8.7085714mm per Foot
x14' long Gilpin caboose = 121.92mm
Or, 8.7 X 6 makes Gigi Buffon roughly 52mm tall!
I think a journey to the local hobby store for a grip of 1/35th scale people is in the works.
Never did locate a source for 28mm that would look right.
The Loco came out to 38mm wide as is/was.
It's clearly not a HO model, but something else.
And when I added the extra stripwood to my train cars they ended up at 38mm wide too.
So my trains are at 4.36 feet wide.
This is now a bit small...
OOoooofffffff.... I should never have tried to do a "Prototype" build!
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 03:29 pm |
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And then I looked at other 1/35th scale layouts on here.
Will I be needing a scale rule if I want one of these on my layout too?
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 03:35 pm |
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| Posted: Fri Dec 14th, 2018 04:18 pm |
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I just can't do On30. Call it a quirk. It has to be 2' or 3'.
And it has to be home made.
It is just going to have to be 1/35th scale mini layout with 15" radius curves and small locos and stock.
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No, you can get around 1:35 scale without a scale ruler.
Do what Daniel and I do...get a couple of 1:35 scale figures, they can be soldiers or whatever, and use them to "set the scale".
I don't even use a scale ruler but have a couple just so I can say that I measure stuff correctly (yeah, right).
I included the photo of the 1:35 scale ruler and an HO standards gauge just because years ago,
some fellow posted that I "should" be modelling 1:36.759 scale or some such s%^t to make the gauge correct.
But then those who worry about correct-ness never seem to build anything except fantasy.
The use of a scale figure helps to determine things like door heights, roof heights, things like that.
When I modeled in HO and O scale, I did have scale rulers but never used them, a figure or two did the job.
Woodie
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