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 Posted: Sun Aug 6th, 2017 11:20 pm
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Since I'n mot working on my 35n2 SCPA&M layout right now due to packing & moving, I have been putting many more miles on the little Gila Tram. And particularly it's little old Shay. The old flat can motor that she had for many years finally gave up the ghost due to the many, many real miles of operation. I had a nice small Bheuler (Bachmann 0-4-0t) motor that seemed to work but after a week or so, that one burned up. Not to give up on #4, I looked in the "motor box" and found the one shown here.
Now, can anyone (besides Mr. Kephart who knows many things) tell anything about this piece of equipment?
No prizes to hand out, just the satisfaction of knowing a bit of history...oops, I've written enough!
Now #4 runs like she should...again.
Who knows the answer?

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 Posted: Mon Aug 7th, 2017 04:24 pm
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Oh Wow



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 Posted: Mon Aug 28th, 2017 06:16 pm
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Woodie, the motor is probably out of a 1937 MixMaster.



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Close...it was made by Lindsey way back in the 50's or so. The company made small DC motors for WW2's Norden bombsights used in B-17's. After the war, the company found a new market in miniature motors like the one shown. They were state of the art and this little one has a 7 pole skewed armature, carbon brushes, and a magnet that is almost 360 degrees around. One of these can be started at about 1 volt and smoothly run, however the amperage is high, like .5 amps or so.

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@Woodie
remember the switch motor?
That was all thinking outside of the box when everybody used solenoids...



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How well I remember those! They not only threw the points but had contacts for power routing. It could easily supply enough "thunk" to send the points into space! That makes me remember TRU SCALE milled roadbed and switches and before them, MIDLIN (Herbie, you awake?) track which had a tang on the bottom of the rail which fit into slots in the ties. I forget how they made switches (turnouts) using rails like that.
Then I remember KEMTRON loco kits which used Lindsay motors and Great Western "Brass Betsy" 2-8-0 kits...same motor. On & on & on......



KEMTRON HOn3 "Teakettle" from the 60's. Built by me and powered by Lindsay.

GREAT WESTERN HO "Brass Betsy" built by Bill (Mudge) long ago. Powered by guess what?

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... had a Gilbert 0-6-0 with chugging sound in the smoke generator...
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 Posted: Tue Aug 29th, 2017 06:09 am
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Not to forget the Ken Kidder ( good pun ) 'Mudhen' that came in H0 and H0n3. Was the first brass loco I could afford- mind you, the $ vs. DM exchange rate was almost 4.2:1 then...

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Re MIDLIn track: Here's athread about it.

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Yes Woodrow, I remember Midlin. Best thing about it was early HO narrow gagers could cut the intended top rail off, then turn it over and have something that looked like a lower rail (required several beers to look exceptable) I think that John Allen did this. Mr Greene -AKA the ORACLE --probably can enlighten us further on this subject.

And as Woodie said-- Lindsey motors were love/hate sort of thing, I had several arguments with Mudge (RIP) about this.  He loved them -but I don't think that he ran them much. I. hated them.  One Pittman DC60, more or less the "gold standard," would outlast 6 Lindsey's in my experience--and the Pitman's got the snot run out of them at the old club layout. Cost less also.

Beautiful pieces--but didn't last long with continuous running

Herbert

PS Never saw a Midlin switch. Might be that Midlin couldn't figure that out either.



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