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 Posted: Mon Jul 17th, 2017 05:34 pm
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Hey everyone!  
I am finally back home!  I left my former employment (_!_) and that is what I think of that.

I have some time to model again, in between rebuilding the CFOs house and getting a late summer garden in.  I think everyone is happy.
I have been motivated to get a project off the ground.  I need a small project that can easily be moved.  


This image and another come from Railroad in the Sky by Wanda & Richard Canton through the Friends of Bodie Railway & Lumber Company.  I have loved the Mono Basin forever. Bodie is a part of that.  My lumbering portion of the layout will be based on the Bodie Railway & Lumber Company.
I am also a huge fan of the Jeffrey Pine.  For those unfamiliar, the Jeffrey is kin to the Ponderosa, grows pretty big and when the wind blows through them they waft a wonderful vanilla smell that you will never forget.  To tell a Jeffrey from a Ponderosa, put your nose in the bark and sniff!  The Jeffrey was the primary tree cut and milled by the BR&LC.  Through the help of the book and the FBR&LC I found Dan Kieft of Oregon who has made extensive drawings of the BR&LC equipment, facilities, and structures.  To him I am grateful and this project was his latest drawing.
The hardest part is modeling the chassis.  The photos of this caboose are vague and fuzzy at best.  It obviously had pedestal mounts for two axles and was spartan at best.  Aside from trying to adapt an HO scale bobber, I thought I might try to modify Grandt Line C&S pedestal mounts to fit.  
There were no springs on the cab like the GL mounts, so I omitted them and built a "block" and rubber cushion style system that were prevalent in the early days of railroading.  I did this by mounting strip styrene to the inside of the pedestal.  I then took a piece of styrene tube and cut it to fit.  It is a little tall, but I think it is acceptable.  The frame will also sit higher than the drawing, but I would like to use IMRC Semi-scale 36" wheels which will be about 18" and bring the car height down to what I think will be acceptable for the look.
While I am a rivet counter in recovery, the "look" and "flavor" are important to me.  


I don't know, but I think due to the lack of detailed pictures Mr. Kieft was vague with the under frame.  This allows me to "make it up" and use conjecture to build it the way that it will work for operations.


I will probably shave off the "C&S" casting marks as these were most likely cast by the Virginia & Truckee's Carson City shops.  This may not be visible anyway when I am done, but details sometimes matter.  As I build the frame I may find that the IMRC wheels don't work the way that I hope... this is a build and fit as I go project.L:
So much for now, it is sure good to be back.



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 Posted: Mon Jul 17th, 2017 06:18 pm
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Steven

Under certain circumstances, telling the boss to "shove it" is the thing to do. Working under conditions that make you consider quitting is bad for the health and spirit.

Glad to see you are back. Do you know where Jeffery pine seedlings can be obtained? Haven't done an extensive search myself, and unless they grow about 3 foot a year I won't get to see them as mature trees, but the kids will. Might not be cold enough in Pennsylvania.

Model on!!!!!!!

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I was fortunate that the last job I would ever have (outside of stuff that I do for myself), I was able to tell the boss off and give him the "finger salute". And after all that, he wanted me to come back for "the holidays"! Whatta maroon!

On the hack's wheel pedestals...the old photos are fuzzy (and OK for modeling) and I don't believe that there are any folks alive who could pick nit the plan you have. Besides, pickers love to tell others what to do while they sit on their butts and don't (or won't) build anything.
Now, whar's that scale ruler...somewhere around here...
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Welcome home, Steven:

I have had a couple of those jobs myself. 

It seems the real cure is to become the boss.  Not an option for everybody.  And it sure makes telling the boss to "stuff it" difficult.   :)

Your theme looks both intriguing and challenging.  

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 Posted: Tue Jul 18th, 2017 06:14 am
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Hey guys,  I don't know where Jeffreys can be obtained.  I imagine that they can be found on the inner tube.  Probably Amazon, they have everything.  I know that we planted a few when we lived out in CA.  We lived near Yosemite and they seemed to be doing ok, but that was years ago.  Yes, they like it cold and well drained Sierra soil.  Not sure if they could make it in PA.  But if you ever get out there to the east side, do make it a point to seek these out.  Late afternoon breeze is a plus.  I hear they built a kiosk at the old Mono Mill site just off US 395.  We used to camp there with the boys when there was nothing to mark it.  Found the turntable foundation and all kinds of cool stuff.  Even took pictures with us to locate the buildings.

I have been thinking of starting something of my own.  But I wonder if that would be akin to representing yourself in court.  "If you represent yourself, you have a fool for an attorney" kind of thing.  And truthfully, if I did do that, I think the boss would understand if I told him to take a flying leap.  :cool:  He is tough to work for and knows it.  But I am old enough now not to care and at this point becoming rich is a pipe dream.  I'll be happy with enough to finish the lady's house and build a layout while watching my fruit trees come in.  

Worked a bit on the under frame tonight and will post more photos when I get some real progress.  I am kind building it "from the hip."  Using typical car fabrication ideas and making changes to suit the photos to some degree.  So it is taking a bit of time to flesh it out.  The pedestals are really very tall, even with the HO 36" wheels.  I might have to put more than one step on the platform.  :f:  I'll play with it some more.  Thanks for watching!



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So, after a tumultifying year, the shops in Ledlie are building again.  As posted in another forum, I need to hire me a Wolfie to get some of this work done.  It just ain't gettin' done by it sitting on the bench.  

I am working up the cab by laminating sheets of styrene together with the idea that I might detail and light the interior.  "Might" being the key word there...

This being the image of where we last left our heroes.  


This is the image of cutting out windows one hole at a time though each layer.  Pay no heed to the not so square openings.  We have ordered pre-hung windows. ;)  They should arrive soon and then I can fix the openings.  I left them a little small.  I was greatly relieved to find that Grandt Line #21 (I think that is the number) windows were a perfect fit for the drawings.  More to come as I go.



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 Posted: Fri Dec 29th, 2017 10:02 pm
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Steven:


I love working in styrene.  A lot can be done with an exacto knife, a straight edge, and a little bottle of MEK.   

Your crummy is looking good.

A little tool I have found very useful for "inside" cuts, like window and door openings, is a "nibbler".  This is a tool that is on the workbench of everyone who works with electronics chassis.  But it works great for styrene.

I got mine at Radio Shack.  Not an option anymore.  Micro Mark carries the variety I have, the manual one, which works just fine.  But I just noticed they have a power nibbler.  It is a bit pricey, but very tempting.

I just did considerable "nibbling" in sheet steel for a small project recently and my hand was pretty tuckered out by the time I got finished.  That power nibbler would have been mighty handy.

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FWIW, nibblers are not designed to cut perfect 90 angles, just good enough.
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pipopak wrote: FWIW, nibblers are not designed to cut perfect 90 angles, just good enough.
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With a little care, the nibbler can certainly cut 90 degree angles.  The window openings on this depot were cut with a nibbler. 
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 Posted: Sat Dec 30th, 2017 08:41 am
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Hmmmm.  Might be a little easier.  I used a square and a straight edge and still they weren't!  Now, after 20 minutes here and 20 minutes there, they are.  The windows arrived yesterday and I have the next three days off.  If the weather is as good as they say it will be, there is a very good chance my only chore will to be bring in firewood!  

Might have to retire to my lurkem and do some lurking around that cab.  I'll look up a nibbler.  Maybe I can find one that comes with cookies!  I still have to do the ends and doors.

More pitchurs by Monday.  Thanks!



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