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Combine Frame Part Duck.
So having scraped the first frame after widening it to match the SJC roof, I have been working on the second attempt at a frame.  I realize that if this is not a prototype model (and note to self - it is not), then I need only go so far to make it look right.  So I just filed down the cast on brake detail that is only visible below the frame while the car is on the track.  Easy peasy.  I don't intend for it to be inverted.  The coupler pads also had to be filed down to match then On3 standards gauge.  I couldn't do any of that until I got the trucks built... done.  And done.
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I also shaved off the clunky truss rods and queen posts.  I have a set of upgrade details from Wiseman.  I will fix these next and come up with a plausible brake system.  I use hand brakes not air brakes and unfortunately, I didn't really look under the car when I was in Sacramento those many years back.  I always feel kind of goofy with my wife looking on when I am foaming, so I always rush and forget stuff.  I will add the coupler boxes and truss rods next. and then see where that goes.  I also need to start thinking about lighting and a battery storage compartment.  Probably an AAA battery, according to my sources this should be enough to supply power to six SMD LEDs.
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I know you're asking, "Are those ORANGE TRUCKS?!!!"  To that I say, "Yup."  "Are you nuts?"  "Yup.  But that's the way of it."  Not all stuff is meant to be dreary and drab and black.  Can't see it very well in my photos of the model, but I tried to simulate the detail painting too.
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No, they're not quite the same truck, but again, this isn't a prototype model, whew.  :bg:  I will be hitting the road for a couple of weeks next weekend.  Going to go visit my pop who lives just off the ol' Feather River Route.  Then I'm gonna shoot out to Nevada for a couple of days and visit Austin to get pictures, measurements and dirt for the layout.  So I may not post again until I get back, but if I make some progress before, I will endeavor to get it up.



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Hi Steven,
Enjoy your trip and take care when wandering around in the scrub. Just make sure it's only dirt and twigs you pick up. Them there creepy and slithery things might be a bit unhappy if you try to give them a new home :bg:

We'll be still here waiting for the next post after you get back,



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" Started working on some old V&T Shops (currently Wiseman) Carter Bros. passenger trucks for the combine today.
These are really cool and very different from the myriad of D&RGW trucks available and the Bachmann style."



Hi Steven.  :cb:



They are really  C :cool: :cool: L  looking trucks !  :thumb:



Maybe, just maybe, I might have to investigate a pair of those myself.  L:

I have 1 pair of Bachmann On30s, & of course lots of 'Tri-ang' Diecasts, in the stash at present.


But those 'V&T Shops' def. have that 'vintage' look to them !  :old dude:

Thanks for the tip off !!



:)



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Time for some motivational therapy.  :wave:

I just got back from a jaunt into the desert.  To the Toiyabes to be specific.

It was to be a mid week overnight trip to photograph and go a few places that I have not yet explored.
We ran into roadwork... uh the construction crew had taken every motel room in Austin... rats!!!  L:

So I normally I would have taken camping gear, but that wasn't an option on this trip.
The next closest town... 93 miles.   :us:

So it turned into a suicide road trip, I'm famous for these in the past.
Four hour drive, one way, no big!  ;) 

I still love this place.





Here is the turntable pit.  I picked up some old coal chunks to feed my locomotives and found a spike!!!  :2t: 





More later when I get back from visiting a more local mine/mill.   :)




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Next Installment.
As I mentioned, I didn't get to all the places that I wanted to (just leaves me a destination for the future) , but I got to the place that was on my bucket list... Yankee Blade.  :Crazy:   Mines were established not long after the Pony Canyon (Austin) Mines.  They boomed the faltered and sat idle for a number of years until the late 1800s early 1900s.

The Nevada Central came to Austin in 1880.  Tracks were laid up the middle of main street by 1881.  Mules were used to move cars up and down the 7.5% grade.  I was thought the grade too steep for a locomotive.  Until one day when an engineer on the NC stormed the grade with a 4-4-0.  Made it!  :glad:


The Austin City Railway was formed and a steam dummy (see my avatar) was purchased for use on the grade and named, appropriately, "Mules Relief".  Eventually rails were extended to some of the mines, but by the mid 1890s, with the decline of the mines, it was gone. :sad:  More on this stuff later.

At any rate we went to a bunch of mines and found the town site of Yankee Blade.  Some of the mines when worked later were pretty large operations.  Found two boilers at different locations and the foundations for a cyanide mill that wasn't on any maps.  Colorado eat your heart out!  I love this place.




The Ward Shaft still has a boiler in place.  The hoisting works has collapsed onto the dump below the shaft behind the photo.  Round nails in the collapsed hoist house indicate late construction.  1900 or so.




This is looking down form the Ward towards the collapsed tunnel of the Morris & Capel Tunnel.  That's the Heep (in Spanish the J is pronounced like an H). 



Of course I found the town.  As it wasn't my vehicle, I didn't want to 4x4 up.  So I found an nice shady place and hiked up.  I was just about to give up and turn around, when I stumbled into the dump!  Looked all over for a bottle of beer, but all were empty and broken :us:.  I did find numerous cans (some pretty early by looking at the canning process).  The bottles supported this too.  I am thinking that maybe Yankee Blade as a town didn't come back much or at all when the mines did later.  The mines that I was mostly looking at were over the ridge from the town too, rather inconvenient for miners.  All of this indicated to me 1860s trash for the most part.  I looked a little further and found the ruins of at least five stone buildings.  :glad:  A great day even if I had to turn tail and run home.


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"So what does all this have to do with your railroad?"
Note to self: "This is not a prototype."  You'll realize that this is a theme for me as a rivet counter in recovery.  Step One: Admitted that I was a rivet counter and that my life had become unmanageable.

To really enjoy this I need to have a reasonable plan.  I need to make it believable, even though it is pure fantasy for me.  The railroad starts at the Reese River (might have staging representing Battle Mountain - the terminus of the Nevada Central).  Ledlie will be the main shops and the interchange with the "Reese River Navigation Company" (see a previous post on this silliness - fantasy one).  The Humboldt & Toiyabe will run south following the NC grade to Austin.  Just south of this map the grade crosses US 50 and turns east to Austin.




When the railroad gets to Austin it will climb the 7.5% grade through town (fact), it will serve some of the mines and the Manhattan Mill above town with some switchbacks and spurs (fact).  Then it will head north contouring around the ridge towards Yankee Blade (fiction).




I then intend to take it up the canyons and contour around to the big mines on the north side after running though the town of Yankee Blade.  My town will be doing well.  I kind of like the Gumstump and Snowshoe style of layout to represent the area above Yankee Blade.  It is really steep up there and any rail service will have to use switch backs.  I like the idea of crossing over itself.  See recent issues of NG&SL to see what I am talking about.  




Can't wait to get home and finish the combination car!

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Return from the Hinterlands.
I made it back to Ol' Virginy.  I find it very funny how Lee B. and I share a similar fate, he models here and I model there.  Opposites.   :boogie:  I like his posts because I worked in his sphere of modeling for 3 years and know it well.  I digress...

At any rate while on my last last day visiting with my pop, I found a book that I forgot that he had while perusing his admirable collection of railroad books.  I believe that he has red them all!  Most deal with the railroads of California, and many of those with the North Western Pacific having run up from the SF Bay Area to Eureka.  He grew up during the last of steam and railroading in Marin County, CA.  So it is only fitting that he bought this book-




Now in my passion (:Crazy:) a number of cars came to the Nevada Central from the Monterey & Salinas when it folded due to the Wheat Cartels (not a new thing really).  The passenger car that I am working on is trying desperately to prototype out to the car in the CA RR Museum.  I am fighting myself on this, remember... it is On30 not On3 for a reason and it is the Humboldt & Toiyabe, NOT the Nevada Central for a reason.  I still find myself drawn to the prototype for inspiration though and want to Carterize my Carter Brothers cars.  After soul searching, I find that I am really happy with the direction and am happy to debase myself through not sticking to prototype, I'm looking for the flavor.
  
The car that I am working on is based on one of the first passenger cars rolled out by the Carters, so I need that "Old Timey" feel, hence the mods that I am describing.  The beautiful thing about Bruce MacGregor's massive study is that there are plans drawn for advancements and technical parts... including how hand brakes before air brakes work!  I had failed to crawl under the car when I visited it in Sacramento years past, and having once worked for State Parks, knew they would take a dim view if I had anyway.  The biggest problem when performing speed research is not knowing what you need, until you need it.  :hyp:

Being all full up with motivation after my trip and finding this book, I got upstairs to the temporary shop and continued work on the frame.  I find that I have to work in a succession of steps and think about the next so that I don't have to go back wash rinse and repeat.  First, I got the coupler boxes mounted.  I am just going to use KD #5 boxes, they work well with Foothill Model Works Link & Pin couplers.  

I pulled out the car sides and began a test fit in line with the instructions.  There are some more mods to come, but first I had to notch the frame.  When I added the 1/4 round on the ends, there was a bit of fitting problem.  The outside car side didn't fit flush to the frame as it should. So I marked and notched the frame for this mod.




Here is a close up of what I am talking about.




I couldn't just file it because I would hit the steps.  I don't really want to replace these, even though they are incredibly wrong... remember rule one.  This was supposed to be a quick project.  I guess "quick" is in the eye of the beholder.  Anyway, this is all the notches cut, now it is time to crack a book and find some dimensions for queen post sills.  More soon!  :slow:






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" The passenger car that I am working on is trying desperately to prototype out to the car in the CA RR Museum.
I am fighting myself on this, remember... it is On30 not On3 for a reason
and it is the Humboldt & Toiyabe, NOT the Nevada Central for a reason.

I still find myself drawn to the prototype for inspiration though and want to Carterize my Carter Brothers cars.

After soul searching, I find that I am really happy with the direction
and am happy to debase myself through not sticking to prototype,
I'm looking for the flavor."



" While I am a rivet counter in recovery, the "look" and "flavor" are important to me."



Hi Steven  :cb:



It's lucky that you 'landed' here at Freerails !  :thumb:



We offer for FREE !  the proven Freerails '12 Step Program' for rivet-counter recovery !!  :P

For alcohol & crack, try the Betty Ford website.  ;)



Personally I don't think there is ANYTHING " debase " ing about creating models with the " look " and " flavor " !

You're doing a 5  :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose: :moose:  mooser job, if you ask me !  :)



I used to be a Westside Lumber Company " rivet counter " in 1:24n3, back in the day ...

... but as you know, I now hacksaw up ol' vintage 'Tri-ang' crap & add lots of 'imagineered' scratchbuilding ...  :cool:

... & hopefully will create some 'diamonds in the rough' with a bucket load of FUNKY railroad sparkle  :s:  to them !



Do I feel better these days ?

HELL YEAH !  :cool:



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( Just quoting Hannibal, from 'The A-Team' ! ... You can imagine me though, with a big cigar & hacksaw ! )  ;)



However there is 1 problem you really gotta sort out Steven.

You might not speak to me again ...  ;)

... but those 'Foothill Modelworks' white-plastic wheels ...

... are  FREAKIN' AWFUL !  :f: :f: :f: :f: :f:





Totally AWESOME model, as I've said numerous times before ...

... but I just couldn't bite my lip on those damn freakin' wheels any longer.  L:



It looks like you might be planning to use some more as well.  :f:





'Foothill Modelworks' make some 5-star awesome stuff.

I've looked at their brake rigging etc. etc. & it looks really well done.



Yes, If you happen to have an Electron Microscope you can even read the writing cast into their wheel centers !

But ... FREAKIN' WHITE PLASTIC ! ?  :shocked:  ... Get outta here ?  ???



Every car build needs the FLASH  :s:  of shiny cold steel beneath it's " look and flavor ".

It is ALWAYS the sparkling diamond, on every dirty, rough & rusty piece of railroad funky junk !

And IT SHOWS !



:old dude:



Si.



( Hiding out ... till the storm blows over )  :w:




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Hey Si,  Hahahaha!:bg:
I thought they were white walls.  :pimp:

They're a light gray.  I was a little worried about the look too.  I guess the toothpaste is outta the tube.  If nobody speaks will the emperor know about his new clothes?

I really like the FMW stuff too.  They're on the combine too.  I almost painted the wheel treads a metalizer "Polished Steel".  I don't know how that (or if) it would wear.  I suspected not, so I refrained.  I imagine that it would only wear off where the wheels make contact, then again, would it flake off the derlin or just leave a line?  Or would they again be white walls?  I also have some Humbroll, it might wear better.  OK, you called it.  Time for the  :dt:  fix.

Yes, I have 10 Billmeyer & Small boxcars simmering on the back burner.  These are the Leadville Shops kits.  SWEEEEEEEET.  The NC had ten just like the D&RG cars at 8 not 10 tons, I have the whole fleet!  And trucks too, and FMW wheels sets, before I had finished the caboose.  I scrimped and saved, and got 'em!  Wheels and all, so yup, I gotta fix that.

It's a good thing that I can get 20 minutes in here and there.  Those increments keep adding up.  Full Time employment and house rebuilding and growing stuff to eat really digs into train time.  I am glad that you said something, 'cause I was just ignoring it.  I think it was Reg a few posts back (too lazy to look right now) who liked how I documented my failures too.  I just want to share my experiences so that others can see what works and what didn't.

Big Ceegars, now were talking, maybe some 21 y/o scotch to wash it down.  Combined?  Might look like a Lego Tanque Charuto?!   [toast]

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White Walls Begone.

Ok, so I used the Humbrol.  It sticks when many won't.  :us:  Whaddaya think?  Off to work!  Oh, the Carter Trucks for the combine use Wiseman metal wheels.  Whew!




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