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 Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2016 04:46 am
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I would like to post a photo of the prototype, copyright
restriction. The drop side's were made with SI's favorite
product line "TRIANG" Testrol cars. Need to find a couple more for myself, with luck this weekend, want to redo my
6 axle DC car. Both cars are based on either 76cm or 2Ft 6In gauge.



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 Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2016 09:30 pm
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Hank Hatchet has seen some suspicious looking types, hanging around the M.M.M carshop of late...
...he thinks they might be trying to steal coffee-stirrers from his lumber pile !

Oh well ... What goes around, comes around Hank !!



Hi Ken

Nice looking depressed-centre flatcar ! (see previous <<< Page)

I have looked at the old Tri-ang Trestrol & Weltrol cars.
I ended up though, scoring the 'Trix-Twin' made depressed-centre flat for now.

I kinda imagine this as being bought by the railroad 2nd-hand from a foundry or such like.
The length & width is spot on for the size of flatcars the Gilpin Tram had...
...although they had no steel-cars of this type.

It could probably handle a Caterpillar TEN or my small crawler 'bash' & maybe a diesel-engine load or similar.
I am considering making a depressed-centre flatcar for my Caterpillar D7 though.
Although I don't know how possible it would be that a 2ft railroad could actually carry a D7 !! ??

Your 'super-wide' model is a good inspiration for a possible car build.
It may never happen, as the actual car-length would be WAY longer than anything I've built so far.
Could be fun though !
I might just score a Tri-ang Trestrol & check it out anyway !
Nothing to be lost here, cheap as chips on eBay...
...for a good Tri-ang BASHING !!

;)

Si.



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 Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2016 10:03 am
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The Trix-Twin Bettendorf style trucks that came on the depressed-centre flatcar, were too high & didn't look that great.

As luck would have it though, the trucks from the Airfix locomotive-crane bash were PERFECT !

A nice low appearance on the car & an unusual heavy-duty look about these trucks.

GREAT ! didn't know what to do with these otherwise.



I just got some other unusual looking heavy trucks, finally, for the 1:35n2 locomotive-crane bash.
Made by ... YEP ! you guessed ...

... Tri-ang !

:moose::thumb:

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I agree, the trucks look much better then what were on the car as built. Looking forward to seeing your Airfix Crane when done.



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I want one of those signs.

Real bad!

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Damn cool!

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" I agree, the trucks look much better then what were on the car as built. Looking forward to seeing your Airfix Crane when done."

Hi Ken

Yes, the Trix-Twin trucks are not really a patch on the bashed Tri-ang diecast ones.
A shame.
I don't think I can use them for anything.
The pressed-steel form 'works well', but looks really '2-dimensional'.

I'm back on the Airfix Crane bash a bit, now I have chosen the new trucks for it.
Plastruct U I L H beams & chequer-plate styrene have arrived, for a new size scratchbuilt car body.
I have a nice Tamiya 1:35 V8 engine which could be good as well.
Not sure exactly where it's heading, but BROWNHOIST is the likely template !


I took a good look at your Tri-ang Trestrol-bash & the original model Ken.
I see you used 2 cars, in 4 slices, by the looks of it; nice work !
I'm wondering if I could do 2 slices, down 1 car, & add 2 widening pieces.
Ken, can you tell me what the LENGTH of the depressed-area on your model is ??

I got some brief Caterpillar SIXTY & D7 specs.
Cat-60 is 6' wide (1:35 52mm) & weighs 20,500 lbs.
Cat-D7 is 8' wide (1:35 69mm) & weighs about 25,000 lbs, Length is 13'4" (1:35 117mm).
The kits I have, are 'under construction' s l o w l y . . .

I think the smaller ChTZ S-65 I have (Russian Cat-60 clone) would look GREAT on a flat like yours !
Maybe even the bigger Cat-D7s might fit as well ... maybe ??
Gotta get back on the construction of those, ZILLIONS of parts though !!
Not like the old Tamiya '70s 2-evening jobs ! ... I love those kits !!


:moose:


" I want one of those signs. Real bad! "

Hi Herb

I'll ask Hank Hatchet if he's got a spare.
Better not try and steal it though.
Hanks ARMED TO THE TEETH ! ... and DEADLY with the Backhoe !!


:w:

Si.



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 Posted: Mon Oct 17th, 2016 02:52 am
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The car I posted has an length to end of trucks of
10 & 1/4 Inchs, width of 2 Inchs. The truck mount setup came from either a Lifelike or Athearn HD flatcar. had to use HO trucks, due to clearance.
The second conversion a 6 axle has the same length, with a width of 1&5/8 Inchs. Used the Triang trucks on it. This car retained the center beam, a lot easier to mount trucks.
Car was based on a written description of the car which operated in Chile
Somewhere I have another set of side frames. The left over
sets of Triang trucks were modified for use on the tenders of 2 Mitsubishi 2-10-2s, which operated in Argentina, 2 of
which are currently being rebuilt for service.

Will dig out both cars and send a photo or two along.



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Hi Ken

Thanks for the info.

I'm surprised at the 2" width of the model.
It just goes to show how photos can sometimes be deceptive.
I thought your conversion looked much wider.
My camera sometimes makes Wolfy look tiny & trucks look bigger etc.

Ken, the measurement I am really interested in, is the LENGTH of the Trestrol depressed-centre area.
Basically to know if any/all of my tractor kits could fit in it.
I can't find this info on the net, I looked pretty hard.
I figure the Trestrol cars have a longer depressed-area, than the Weltrols, but I don't have either to check this.

I'm up for having a go at a Trestrol or Weltrol bash, if I can confirm that centre-area measurement.

Yes, the Trestrol 3-axle trucks look interesting.
I just bought as well, 2 different types of Tri-ang diecast tender frames, real cheap.
Brand new spare-parts, no less ! ... Bit dusty from being on the shelf for 50 years !!
Could be good critter frames, or even heavy flatcar trucks, with a bit of cutting.

Si.

Trix-Twin depressed-centre flatcar with original pressed-steel trucks.



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 Posted: Mon Oct 17th, 2016 06:14 am
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The length of the depressed section is 4&1/8 Inchs.
Largest Crawler I have is a 1/50 Allis-Chalmers 21 with a
3&1/4 Inch wheel base.
Might be a tad short for a 1/35 D-8.



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