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pipopak Moderator 
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From the digital junkyard: 1913 SAR gas-electric      From Down Under:  FJ&G #200:    1922 open bus and trailer:    See you next time. Jose. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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Boy, some of those are downright ugly! |
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pipopak Moderator
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Another rustload. 1922 White:  1929 Tabor and Malvern:  1931 from France:   1932 Budd stainless steel:    1932 Irwin:     Jose. |
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Helmut Registered 
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Eh bien, la Micheline est là... |
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pipopak Moderator
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Another dose...   1933 MAN  1933 Pullman Railplane   1935 Evans conversion  1935 PLM (France)  1936 Evans   Jose. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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The 1933 MAN and the 1935 PLM are very similar, and a bit odd. I've never seen a railbus with a cupola in the center like that. |
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mwiz64 Registered 
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That third one down clearly says its a Railplane. If you google that term you might just be surprised. I was... |
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Helmut Registered
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It's not Bennings' Railplane, but Pullman's. |
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Bernd Registered
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Here's an interesting one. http://www.yukonmuseums.ca/yca/images/mbm1989-26-192.jpg Bernd |
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Helmut Registered
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And here it is after some minor improvements. Lest I forget..it looked like this Last edited on Mon May 26th, 2014 06:15 pm by Helmut |
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pipopak Moderator
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Bernd: so thiis is the long lost inspirational prototype for the Atlas Turbo Express: Jose. |
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pipopak Moderator
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It's not Bennings' Railplane, but Pullman's. There is a lot more interesting stuff at this site. Just follow the links next to "home". Jose. |
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Bernd Registered
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Jose, I remember seeing those ads. Never bought one though. Bernd |
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mwiz64 Registered
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My IPad won't let me post photos on this website but if you follow the link below you'll find a Mane 2 foot rail bus photo on a postcard. I think it looks pretty darn cool. http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Q6rcO3IYOWM/TMIUHacf3eI/AAAAAAAAAIs/BOASlTadn3g/s1600/BH+RY+Railbus006.jpg |
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pipopak Moderator
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Before anybody thinks that I ran out of them, here are some more: 1937 DR open coach  1937 NH steam railcar  Power truck from the above railcar  1940 Sewell railcar  1947 "streamlined" French railcars. Ever seen a jalousie-type windshield?.  1950 Mack  1950 DB convertible railbus  From the Isle of Sylt. I find it real neat:  1959 SNCF. Jouef made (makes?) an HO scale version.  1967 LIRR railbus  And tha't all folks!. More next time. Jose. Last edited on Sat Jun 7th, 2014 06:38 pm by pipopak |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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I love that 1940 Sewell. There's some real craftsmanship just in the "cowcatcher". The vehicle's overall look is reminiscent of a classic streamlined steam locomotive. |
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Si. Moderator 
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Very moooooooodern ! Wot no rust ? The hell with the rust ! 5 MOOSES !!!!! All the best. Cheers Si. |
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pipopak Moderator
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More...       Lotsa wheels:   |
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Herb Kephart Moderator 
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I like that first pix. Family going for what looks like a Sunday ride. Was going to say in England, but the Driver and Conductor don't look English --at least back in that era. But the water tank looks right. Perhaps a place like India, where English influence was heavy. Wherever--that Ford is a real ''scorcher'' I'll bet. All those windows mean lots of seats, and even though most are empty today, that old girl can't be geared to do more than 10 MPH---If that. Herb |
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Si. Moderator
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Luvin' that silver-streamliner... ..,with the green go-fast stripe ! That 'homegrown' link-n-pin... ...could come in handy ! ***** Jose ! Cheers Si. |
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Alwin Registered 
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Again some great buses Jose. I came this weekend through Wuppertal, Germany. They have a aerial tramway in the city. I took some photo's but they're not worth posting. But take a look at this website, there is some info of the old days of the tramway: http://www.schwebebahn-wtal.de/schwebebahn-alt.html Alwin |
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Salada Registered 
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Keep finding these photos, thanks Jose. Herb: You're right about that 1st photo which is strangely instantly semi-recognisable to me. Possibly Ireland (Eire, the Free State) - County Donegal Railways went in for 'money saving' contraptions like that, as did several other impoverished Companies. I think I also recognise 1 or 2 Italian contraptions judging by their bodywork style. Regards Michael |
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pipopak Moderator
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To whom may be in possession of info: usually I post whatever I have/know about 'em rascals, but if somebody knows anything else please post it. Alwin: I have a few pics of the Wuppertal system, but none of the older cars or construction era. Thanks!. Michael: I believe the first one (Ford T) is a County Donegal, but not sure. Jose. Last edited on Wed Jun 11th, 2014 10:14 pm by pipopak |
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Salada Registered
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Hello Jose, The "atmosphere", the station roof awning, water-tank etc. look like Donegal but I don't know what location. I'm not a great expert on older Irish stuff. Regards Michael |
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pipopak Moderator
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...... and SOME more! Bowen:   Bowest jitney:       Jose. |
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Si. Moderator
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Hi Jose ! British Rail need to get interested in those 'new-fangled' 1935 ... ... Insect repeling railbuses ... ... Just a few years earlier ! EVERY railbus should have a 'pest-repeller' for the summer ! Cheers Si. |
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Si. Moderator
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Football hooligan repellers could be good as well ! Si. |
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Helmut Registered
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@Salada This one might be your kettle of fish. For plans and more photos, google for "La bete de Calvi" Last edited on Fri Jun 13th, 2014 11:16 pm by Helmut |
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pipopak Moderator
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Holy rust!. Love it!. Jose. |
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Shoulders Registered
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Hi there That top pic is from the Kent and East Sussex line and is pictured at Roveldon this is the line I am modeling in 4mm scale. I have a etch brass kit of this from wosely works here in the uk he does it in uk 0 gauge and I'm sure he can reduce it to 1:48 scale. Cheers Dan |
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pipopak Moderator
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Thanks for the info. Jose. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Some more: CGW #M219:  A Chemins De Fer de Blaise  then turned into "art":  Chitina Auto Railer:  CPH #6:  Motorman's seat non-OSHA compliant:   South Shore MOW:  From Cuba with rust....  Jose. |
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Great finds José !! |
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Salada Registered
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Looks like someone has done a good restoration job on that "Railmotor No 6". Somewhere in the US judging by the cowcatcher/pilot. Regards Michael |
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Michael,the CPH rail motors were introduced into the New South Wales Railways (Australia)in 1923.They are 42 feet long and were used on light traffic lines in the country areas.There is still some operating that have been restored and a number of them stored and in the process of being restored.Peter |
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Bernd Registered
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I've got a couple to add. The Long Island RR used these for track inspection.  This one is in Europe somewhere.  Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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The DB (Deutsche Bundesbahn) originally commissioned 50 VWs for itself, probably all the others we find in the net are either the same ones or spinoffs. Jose. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Kept diggin': Cowichan Valley #27:  California Western #M80:  M100:  M200:  M300:  M300 again, different colour scheme:   from Austraila IIRC:  D&H 3 pics:    Danville & Mount Morris #300:  Jose. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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That Dansville & Mt. Morris railbus is a classy rig, too bad the image quality is so poor. |
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Si. Moderator
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Great driver's seat on #27 ! Cheers Si. |
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Salada Registered
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Good stuff Jose, thanks. I looked up that California Western Railroad as I had never heard of it. They had, or still have ?, a 2-6-6-2 that looks rather like the Bachmann On30 one. Also a strange looking 2-4-2. Regards Michael |
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pipopak Moderator
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More: Donegal County. Nice mixed train:   Don River Line:  Downpatrick and County Down:    Emu Bay #4:   Evans Auto-Railer:   Jose. |
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I have a model of the #14 in your first picture. It is the #12 here but they were both the same. I have another one to build and it will be the #14. 1.  http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=5061&forum_id=46 |
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pipopak Moderator
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Hi Bill: is #12 articulated or just two separate sections?. Jose. |
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Bill Fornshell Registered
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It is articulated at the front truck. I guess that is how to say it. I thought I had a picture of the bottom but guess I didn't take any from that view. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Found some more deeper in the HD: Evans railbus see-thru:  From Finland:   WP&Y Ford. Craziest thing I ever saw:  Ford AA:  Ford T with unusual "rail pickups":   White bus used at Guantanamo:  For the narrow-minded:  IBT #8:  Jose. |
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Alwin Registered
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You saved the best for last. Keep on digging. Alwin |
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Railbuses are like beaches. So many to choose from, but so little time  |
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pipopak Moderator
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And..... by popular demand (all two of you faithful followers)...... Another dose of rust!!!. Not a whole lot left...  Sligo, Leitrim & Northern Counties Railway, unit no 2a   Hokkaido Line. Looks quite cartoonish:  Look ma!. A skoolie!. Marienville PA:   and a Leyland:  Look at those extra radiators:   Jose. Last edited on Fri Aug 1st, 2014 10:17 am by pipopak |
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Bernd Registered
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The WP&Y looks like it's made from two separate vehicles. Perhaps a car for the power unit and a bus chassis for the passenger compartment. The little red "T" with the track picks ups. They are actually track cleaners so you get better contact from a clean rail.   Bernd Last edited on Thu Jul 24th, 2014 12:41 pm by Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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 This one powered by on-board batteries. No word about RC control...  1937 Ma&Pa Buick rail auto  Michelin rail bus  If front truck wheels were any smaller they would have been stored in the "large washers" bin....        Last one has an interesting wheel layout. Jose. Last edited on Sun Jul 27th, 2014 03:49 pm by pipopak |
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W C Greene Moderator 
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What cooolness! You be de master of finding coolness! Woodrow |
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Milocomarty Registered
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He is !!!!!!!!!!!!! Thnks José |
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pipopak Moderator
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  Packard patent design:   Queensland, Oz:     The prototype for the 60's Atlas propelled rail cars:    Jose. |
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Alwin Registered
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Beside of the cool buses, I also like that derail sign in the last photo. Could be usefull for modelling purposes  Alwin |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Yes, I have an authentic DERAIL sign that I found years ago. It stays near my layout so everyone knows what may happen if not careful! Woodie |
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Bernd Registered
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I'm startin' to get the idea that I can get a bunch of bus parts, a bunch of car parts, a bunch of railroad parts & some glue and have at it to create my own "rail critter" and be prototypically correct.   Last edited on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 11:56 am by Bernd |
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mwiz64 Registered
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You might even get some tractor parts and a few airplane parts to add to the mix. I can almost see you working on it now.... Just throw them into a bag with some glue, shake and out comes a prototypical critter. |
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Bernd Registered
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mwiz64 wrote:You might even get some tractor parts and a few airplane parts to add to the mix. I can almost see you working on it now.... Just throw them into a bag with some glue, shake and out comes a prototypical critter. Hey Mike, You could call it a "shake & glue" kitbash. Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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I'm startin' to get the idea that I can get a bunch of bus parts, a bunch of car parts, a bunch of railroad parts & some glue and have at it to create my own "rail critter" and be prototypically correct That's exactly what the prototype did. All those long winter nights in the roundhouse weren't wasted... Jose. |
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Bernd Registered
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I may just have to do one. But being a little more standard using an HO truck that Golden put out. http://www.goldenwheeldiecast.com Seems they don't have HO models anymore. I'll take pictures of the four trucks I have and post later. Looks like these might be rare and I shouldn't be cutting them up for rail critters. Bernd Last edited on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 08:00 pm by Bernd |
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Bernd Registered
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I took some quick pictures of the models. I've already de-constructed one. It's sitting on a pair of Bachmann cable car trucks.  Bernd Last edited on Tue Jul 29th, 2014 11:08 pm by Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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I would chop off the (brake pads?), otherwise looks like a champ!. Jose. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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That WP&Y thing looks like a bus rear-ended a car, and they just stuck some train wheels under it and called it a rail bus! |
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The County Donegal unit is not - it's from it's near neighbour, but broad gauge Sligo, Leitrim & Northern Counties Railway, unit no 2a I'll have to start digging out my collection of railcar pics.... Tom |
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pipopak Moderator
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Thanks Tom. Jose. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Selfkatntbahn railcar (hope I got it right): Sewell from Chile:    Simpson Logging:    SP&S Brill:     As usual. if further info is available I will update it. Jose. |
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W C Greene Moderator
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The second one from Chile...THAT'S THE ONE! Looks like an old Ford pickup front and cab with some doors added on. Great stuff, as usual. Keep em' coming. Woodie |
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pipopak Moderator
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  Vrey close (or the same one) I posted before:  Trans Florida Central:  From Peru?    Volvo:     Jose. |
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mwiz64 Registered
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Ya know... I don't have a place for a railroad these days and it's likely I won't for a long time but I think I could see myself building some rail buses. #4 down from the top looks like a good first one. I think I'll start looking for the parts for a project like that. |
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pipopak Moderator
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A passenger railbus with a trailer is a mixed train all by itself. So go for it!. Jose. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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I love those two coaches powered by 4-2-0 locos! Someday I'd like to build one of those. Last edited on Mon Aug 4th, 2014 04:22 am by Ray Dunakin |
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Bernd Registered
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Happened to be searching for some slides I had taken of an interlocking tower on the B & O and came across these. The Strasburgh rail bus. Pictures are dated May 1976.  Of course then you always have some idiot hanging of the side trying to steal the show.  Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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Nice bus. Hood is kind of funny-looking... Jose. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Ray Dunakin wrote: I love those two coaches powered by 4-2-0 locos! Someday I'd like to build one of those.I think is the same one on both pics, with different wheels on the front truck. Jose. |
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Bernd Registered
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pipopak wrote: Ray Dunakin wrote:I love those two coaches powered by 4-2-0 locos! Someday I'd like to build one of those.I think is the same one on both pics, with different wheels on the front truck. Jose. I don't think so, unless they changed the pilots too. Bernd |
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pipopak Moderator
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Don't think the design was so successful to justify making more than one. May have been involved in an accident. Jose. |
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pipopak wrote: Don't think the design was so successful to justify making more than one. May have been involved in an accident. Jose. Good point. Never thought about that. Bernd |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Those little 4-2-0 steam coaches were common in OZ, at least there are articles every once in a while in NGDU (Narrow Gauge Down Under) about them and RTR models in On30 offered. When I can find it, there's an ancient photo of a "portage loco" in an old Abdill book I have...it appears to be an 0-4-0 with a flat car built on the rear. The thing was used in WA state I believe. Just shows to go that "there's a prototype for anything"... Woodie |
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pipopak Moderator
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Yep, some more!     Victoria railways, built on an AEC bus chassis:   On the most basic turntable ever:     Jose. |
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Rod Hutchinson Registered
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Victoria railways, built on an AEC bus chassis: Is available as a kit. http://www.steameramodels.com/locos.htm#AEC |
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pipopak Moderator
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Railbuses kits are few and far between. Thanks for sharing. Jose. |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Jose, the Valley & Siletz railcar is more "properly" called a speeder. Logging roads built and used many ultra-cool vechicles like that one. The "passengers" this one carried wore boots and flannel shirts to work in the woods. But it could be called whatever, I'll bet the crew called it something when it derailed or ran out of gas! Woodie BTW-the McKeen car will incite Bill Fornshell and Herb Kephart to impart info on the famous "windsplitter". |
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Bill Fornshell Registered
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Woodie is correct, I am a bit "obsessive-compulsive" when it comes to the McKeen Motor car and the other McKeen Company rail items. This is one of my "if only McKeen had developed a better drive system" ideas. A McKeen High-Speed Light Rail Articulated Motor Car:  |
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pipopak Moderator
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.... and this is the last I have, at least in formats compatible with the forum.   Wismar railbus #1   That's all folks!. Jose. |
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Alwin Registered
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The last you have? Oh no....  . What's gonna be next?Thanks for the whole serie Jose. Alwin |
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Alwin Registered
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What about other strange railvehicles? Like this perhaps: Alwin |
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pipopak Moderator
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Mow the right of way.... I thought that only the Maumee and Western did that. Jose. |
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Thanks for finding and posting the WP&YR Railcar. I found a few pictures of this Railcar sometime back and started a card stock pattern mock-up of it. http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=3638&forum_id=46&jump_to=40544#p40544 Lack of a good front side picture cause me a lot of problems and I stopped working on it.  With this picture you found I can go back and correct a few of the problems I was having and maybe now finish it. |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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Wow, that track mower is really something! Never seen anything like that before. |
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Do you want some more of these - I have a fair number in my collection too. Tom |
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Si. Moderator
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Well ... It has FINALLY happened ! I couldn't take Joses hoards of fans, jamming the Freerails eMail box any longer. More ... MORE ! ... MORE !! these RAILBUS OBSESSED FANATICS continually demanded !! Something had to be done !  So, back by HUGE POPULAR DEMAND ... is the king of RAILBUSES ! collected works ... ... in 1 new GARGANTUAN Super-Group, of all the original 18 Threads !! It took some doing ... But I think you'll agree, It was worth the wait !!  Si. Don't forget to take your Iron-Tablets . . . |
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pipopak Moderator
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Back by popular demand: Jose. |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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I bet that thing put some severe twisting stresses on the underframe of that cuitie on the sharp curves of the day. Also likely that they use a coach that had seen some service. Doubt that coach truck had a side sliding kingpin, so service life was probably short---but a neat little thing, nonetheless. Herb |
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Helmut Registered
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Don't think those 1865 engineers were all dumbnuts. The loco can swivel vertically around its driving axle Last edited on Fri May 26th, 2017 08:07 pm by Helmut |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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A very logical way of avoiding the problem, Helmut, but how do you know that it was applied in this case? I looked for that very thing before posting and could see no evidence. Herb |
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Helmut Registered
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@Herb it is 'educated guessing' 1. from the photo, showing some space between the boiler and the superstructure. 2. taking into account, because anything unarticulated that long would have jumped the rails at the first kink, the guys in the shop would have hastened to find a remedy. 3. the photo is proof for case 2, because the contraption obviously has seen some service when the photo was taken. |
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South Australia had something similar on the Pichi Richi line. |
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Si. Moderator
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. . . and the other side . . .  Si. |
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pipopak Moderator
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And now some old (30's to 50's) railcars and railbuses from Argentina. Very British looking. There are pictures and scale drawings: http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905101983 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905099113 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905095848 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905089638 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905083503 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905079763 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905068238 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905064973 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905057753 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905051548 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163905041993 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163904853813 http://ferrocarrilesargentinos.tumblr.com/image/163904847543 Jose. |
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FUNKY JUNK ! I wouldn't mind betting Canadian Ken knows of some top ticket South American railbuses Eh!  Small and FUNKY is how I like my buses served !  Si. |
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Ken C Registered 
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Jose Some great photos of Argentina Rail cars. Si Will have to go through the photos I have of Peru and El Salvador rail cars I rode in and on in 2001. Canadian Ken Eh! |
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pipopak Moderator
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'Will have to go through the photos I have of Peru and El Salvador rail cars I rode in and on in 2001.' Download button ready! Jose. |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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Almost gagged on my Captain Krunch when I saw the first couple, but the rest are top notch! Herb |
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" Almost gagged on my Captain Krunch when I saw the first couple " Hi Herb  I guess you weren't eating your breakfast, when you Posted that Mexican MONSTER !  I hope this one goes down well ! It's probably smoother than the 'Captain Krunch'. Not recommended to leave it in milk too long though !  Si. |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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Ein Weiner, mit fensers. Goes down easier, let you know about gastric distress. Herbie |
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Helmut Registered
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@Herr Bert " Ein Wiener mit Fenstern" ( Wiener sausage with windows -took me some minutes to figure this out ) Where's the mustard? |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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Very large drum of mustard it on it's way, Helmut |
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Si. Moderator
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Not entirely sure where I got this snap of rot & rust from. But I seem to remember, it might be an ex. WWI War-Dept. job.   It's a lil' bit fugly ! Interesting 'odd' by the looks of, running-gear. Not very classically 'bus' like really. I'll let Jose pass the final judgement on this beasts 'official' bus status ! Not many rivets at least !! Si. |
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pipopak Moderator
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Gets the coveted Official Grand Seal of Approval. Jose. |
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Michael M Registered 
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Si, I like that rusty and weathered beast. Easy to model...no rivets to count! |
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How, this for something a bit different ? Horse tram converted to power car by turning it's body sideways, but leaving the platforms where they where. Coupled to two horse tram trailers with just one axle each !  Tom |
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Another handsome devil ! Tom |
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Yep,sure is ugly............Peter. Last edited on Fri Mar 9th, 2018 02:39 am by 2foot6 |
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That ugly wreck makes my Mrs. look really attractive ! Another bang spot on illustration of why I don't like trains Now a Cadillac thats got the kinda style I am looking for Eddie |
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Something with a bit more cuteness Tom |
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Hi Tom and all, Looks a little cold outside?? The bigger coat, the higher the rank?? "Rank has its privileges" and all that... Nice photo and member Franck Combe has done a model of it for his Sidi Fontana layout at http://freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=7851&forum_id=40&page=2 Another look there is always a worthwhile and enjoyable experience.  |
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Ok gang:here are a few more. https://i.pinimg.com/564x/a1/22/30/a122308f0bcc956cabf9a603402fb849.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/42/11/8e/42118e53db8373c580db448a4805563f.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/a0/9b/ad/a09badac1e756160c4e9ee9cac9b676c.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/2d/86/95/2d86951395fff72b877efea352bd122b.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/37/6b/65/376b65cb84c8eedd3ee9c4c2dfccdd79.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/dd/b4/cc/ddb4ccb9cd78f0e0a538668f58ec7ae3.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/dd/13/1d/dd131d0b138dccb4b42a165f5df22243.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/33/22/eb/3322eb7c7f4b191b90f891b9382215dd.jpg Jose. |
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Another dump: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/12/d5/8b/12d58b753014a5685e51b1f94ee9e835.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/94/44/9e/94449ede239a13162141c70bb616eb79.jpg Wire wheels anybody?https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8c/fd/a0/8cfda0f1f0a496bb0ef4cae053560b2f.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d4/99/dc/d499dc2cd9ffdeb2b8bc7f4b09d33ab2.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/89/10/7d/89107d43de5d7013543fa0faeb793b60.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/83/06/17/8306170ac5fd44b0cbd68f0613e9e5d1.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8f/b4/9b/8fb49b813d192674543ed5f0172ce416.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3b/9e/78/3b9e78545950dedbc1a07cb8eb4dca80.jpg Some "customizing" performed: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/e2/21/7b/e2217bdadaf1d487988e49515c6ff481.jpg Dig the monstrosity on the back: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/0e/66/40/0e66407d1bd81e74e6e9f9a62bbcc01c.jpg Jose. |
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Wanna some more? https://i.pinimg.com/564x/6b/1a/23/6b1a23fdbbb80e8fab240b16c2b9e7c7.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/36/d3/5d/36d35d0e9f1c2ddc6f3de03bd3566a52.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d9/82/14/d982143609ec33de5c36ae8e54663c9d.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/35/25/95/352595311de613c5b67cd201aa112731.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ea/82/f6/ea82f638ab1a54bf9e8645de8c5290e1.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/8e/52/80/8e528023fa8206547e687a9fc206062e.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/d6/13/8b/d6138b9c61b9f07eb50caef0a601bf3b.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ea/11/bb/ea11bb611b3569747a6f504b6b77dca1.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/564x/0b/d7/bb/0bd7bb1609b84978d9431e9e0a1185ce.jpg Jpse. |
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The Jeep picture is from 1951, when the SBB had some of them converted to rail speeders. The ladder, wooden parts, and the tires all belong to a scaffold on wheels. The scaffold was used for catenary inspection. |
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Chalk ...  ... & ...  ... Cheese  Si. |
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Railcar and trailer - Do you think they could have squeezed a few more on ? Tom |
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Hi all, Yeah, all the passengers on the rail car proper are to provide enough weight for adhesion to move the trailer. It's the tropical version of "how many bodies can you squeeze into a Mini" I'm guessing someplace like Samoa??The axle loading on the trailer has to be starting to get up there heading towards rail-bending territory. It looks like one of the truss-rods on the trailer is dragging in the sand already... I hope they didn't have to travel too much further. |
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" The axle loading on the trailer has to be starting to get up there heading towards rail-bending territory " Well spotted John ! Not to mention the tiny-lil' 4-SPOKED by the looks of, trailer wheels !  Question is ... what gave first. Rails. Wheels. Axles. Common sense !! Si. |
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The car body seems straight to me. What happens is we see the truss rod on the fore side visually aligned with the far side rail. Jose. |
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From the 'Kiso Forest Railway' in Japan. " The Fridge "  Si. |
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- The Fridge II - RETURN Of The Son Of A Fridge ! A SPINE CHILLIN' RIDE ! Si. Nearly forgot ... ... A 'Kiso Forest Railway' turntable as well !  |
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More of them, and it still exists. Hint: On a meter-gauge system in an island, where everybody speaks Italian, but it's not Italy. The infamous N.B. was born there. |
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More miniature micro-buses from the Kiso Forest ? ...  Hope yer not in a hurry ...  Si. |
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I think that's getting down to the level of track speeder. |
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Where they keep the track speeders & micro railbuses in The Kiso Forest.   Very evenly raked ballast ! Si. |
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Something a bit bigger then ? Yugoslavian 2ft 6 gauge 3 unit railcar  Tom |
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Ok it's a railtruck rather than a rail bus, but it's cute so that's near enough. In Idaho but no more info.  Tom |
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Oh, come on, you took that photo on your garden railway to make us believe otherwise - those 'plastic' ties betray you! Very realistic modelling indeed, with a lot of attention to small details. Last edited on Wed Jul 11th, 2018 01:25 pm by Helmut |
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Some from south Argentina DSC00739 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00738 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00737 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00736 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00735 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00734 by d.caso, on Flickr DSC00733 by d.caso, on FlickrDaniel |
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Daniel I do like the CMF 2 photo, I have modeled a few pieces of SA rolling stock including Argentina, Esquel Tank car, other models are from Peru, Brazil, Chile, Russia & Canada. Not sure what may come next |
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Short and to the point. Tom |
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Tom You kill me!!! What a beauty...!!! Daniel |
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From Portugal ...  Si. |
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I'm going to presume that B&OCT No. 4 was a crew shuttle, probably to take crews from the yard office down to the roundhouse and back, or maybe down the yard ladder to pick up their train. Would make a great little model. |
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It's got teeth ! Spanish NG railcar of the Company of Ferrocarriles Económicos (FESA) - originally railcars operated all trains on this line, though some second hand steam locos were bought later. Local rebuild of Renault railcar from 1924  As built  side view  Tom |
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Just plugging in my 1600x1024 extra super large monitor Eddie |
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Sorry - there are times when I forget my laptop is 1952x1080 ! Tom |
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 From Google Images. Anyone like this one ?  Pretty compact & funky ! Si. |
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I'll see your cute one and raise you this :- Tom Last edited on Sun Sep 2nd, 2018 02:48 am by tebee |
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...and I'll double down ( and mix my metaphors at the same time) with this :- Tom |
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South American (Peru?) railcar set Tom |
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Last one is a real conundrum: a 4 wheel rigid section under the coach and a 4 wheel bogie under the motor. Probably not a very successful design... Jose. |
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All depends on how much side play the bogie has. It's not very far from the fixed truck so won't need too much. T |
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It did last quite a few year - more about it here http://starship.org/OtherStuff/Presentations/2009/KisselKarClub/KisselKarClub.pdf T |
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Looks like a Stover car  Tom |
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This electric railcar on the Santa Cruz Portland Cement Company railroad at Davenport was supposedly rebuilt from the Pacific Coast Railway's 3 foot gauge center entrance interurban car. It survived until the 70's but sadly wasn't preserved  Tom |
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Hetch-Hetchy Mieser car  Tom |
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" I'll see your cute one and raise you this "  Si. |
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Ex - South Pacific Coast 3ft gauge steam inspection car  Tom |
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They can't be any more basic than it... Take off a screw and the whole thing falls apart. Jose. |
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Another day another railbus  Tom |
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Stripes!  Tom |
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French 2ft gauge railcar - it's older brother(AT1) has been preserved, but sadly not this one.   Tom |
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Dinky ! Tom |
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and today we go to Japan Tom |
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For half a second I thought the tile roof was on it. tebee wrote: Dinky !
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Another Japanese one  Tom |
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I think that a proper tiled roof on top of a railbus makes perfect sense ... ... But that brick arch on top of the boxcar, is just WRONG mmaann !! Si. |
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tebee wrote:
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It is a pedestrian-catcher. A person hit by it will fall into the net and remain as little harmed as possible ( at least that was the idea behind it ) Last edited on Wed Sep 26th, 2018 09:52 pm by Helmut |
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And from El Salvador  Tom |
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Thanks Helmut. I was just wondering... The one from El Salvador above has somehow a bit an angry look. Maybe cause of the round shape, the dark radiator, the "big" headlight or the cow-cather? Maybe a combination of all. |
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And another from South America  Tom |
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Open car from same line, originally from Milan Expo of 1906  Tom |
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And a closed car from the same line - one of these apparently still exists although in bits awaiting restoration.  Also available in black  Tom |
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And what looks like a very goose like motor car from El Salvador. Only info I have on this is that it was Motor 16 of FENADESAL  Tom |
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A couple finds:    Jose. |
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Chinese Silver Bullet - semi-streamlined doodlebug  Tom |
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A little bit more information about the Chinese one - it's a rebuilt Hall-Scott car and ran between Hong Kong and the mainland |
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This thread is running close to "critter overload"! But then we can all take it, I have been overloaded for many years. WCG |
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My problem is I'm starting to forget which ones I've already shown on here. I too a overloaded with the damn things! I think they must be like tribbles - far too cute and bread to easily.... Todays example  Tom |
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No idea what this is, but it looks interesting ! Tom |
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French - need I say more ? Tom Last edited on Sun Nov 4th, 2018 02:19 pm by |
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Definitely a railbus Tom |
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I liked the little 4 wheeler with curtains...a model for sure! Woodie |
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It will probably appear in my range sometime Woody ! Today's offering  Tom |
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Ah the mighty Pennsylvania -  Tom |
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Probably pushing the definition of railbus a bit, but it's rather cute - I want one !  Tom |
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Looks a bit sad ! Tom |
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Any idea on what the pole on the side of the car would be used for? |
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If I am not mistaken, the pole is actually the exhaust for the engine. I have seen this before on several logging speeders and crew cars. Have fun! Don |
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Don Gage wrote: If I am not mistaken, the pole is actually the exhaust for the engine. I have seen this before on several logging speeders and crew cars.Ah yes - it looks like it is wrapped in something so you don't burn your hands if you grab hold of it. Tom |
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While I'm here, have another -  Pennsylvania Railroad no. 4689 by Trainiac, on FlickrTom |
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That has to be one of the most fugly cars Ive ever seen The passenger and drivers seats dont look up to very much I cant see that the things steering column is long enough either I guess Im just gonna stick with my Cadillac Eddie |
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Nice Guy Eddie wrote:. I cant see that the things steering column is long enough either Steering isn't normally a major problem on a railbus though.... Tom |
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Hidden under the armour of this Malayan Railway 1m gauge railcar is an ex Army Jeep. |
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Drive your railcar defensively, a pair of British Wickham armoured railcars from early 1950s, again running on 1m gauge line that served in numerous countries including Malaya, Burma, Goa, Thailand and Vietnam.  |
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There is a number of those armored railcars preserved in Thailand. This one is in an open air museum, just up the road from the main station in Bangkok, so far the only one I've seen in the flesh.  Tom |
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An armored railcar with a canvas top.... sigh... Jose. |
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" An armored railcar with a canvas top.... sigh... " Somehow I like these much more than that fugly thing with the short steering column I guess the paint options werent as extensive compared to Cadillacs though A soft top convertible is cool cruising Long Beach But you cant just throw your board on one quickly and go when the surfs up Eddie |
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They don't get much more basic than this... Tom |
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" They don't get much more basic than this ... " I doubt anyone is going to argue about that I guess aerodynamics and streamlining is only relevant if it goes faster than 5 mph Ive seen more fully featured outhouses than that The 180 vision must be so bad that the drivers have to stick their heads out of the windshield Perhaps the exhaust pipe wasn't long enough It does have an engine right ? Eddie |
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pipopak wrote: An armored railcar with a canvas top.... sigh... When in a combat situation, they were operated without the top, with one or two of the men on lookout. Reason was - same as with rubber tired vehicles - to have unrestricted view in all directions, so not to fall prey to a plane which might show up unnoticed. |
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Steam one! Tom |
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I could actually maybe get to like that one a bit I guess a decent car like a Cadillac could be converted Not sure I would ever get used to not having a steering wheel My tight fisted Insurance Company says I aint no good at steering anyway No danger of the boiler exploding like with those horrible steam engines you guys like Eddie |
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Some early car->railcar conversions kept the steering wheel. Sometimes it was simply locked out of use, but often it was used to operate the brakes or more occasionally the accelerator. Tom |
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I like the brushes in front of the wheels to keep the railheads all shiny... Jose. |
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pipopak wrote: I like the brushes in front of the wheels to keep the railheads all shiny... Well if you didn't you might have problems with the electrical pick up Tom |
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I like the open top section ! ERT railcarby Trainiac, on Flickr Tom |
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When browsing the net for pictures of Pacific Electric cars in Argentinia, I found a page discussing Beardmore Railcars. What a monster! Anybody out there willing to build a model?  http://mundo-ferroviario.es/index.php/historia/19751-loa-automotores-beardmore-del-ferrocarril-del-plazaola Last edited on Sun Feb 10th, 2019 04:29 pm by corv8 |
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Cor, It is not very pretty but the black and white photo doesn't make it better. I don't know if there is any but I would like to see a color photo of it. Let's see if it is still that monstrous then .Alwin |
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" What a monster! Anybody out there willing to build a model? " Hi Gerold  I'm just plugging in a couple of extra monitors here ... ... so I can actually SEE the monster !Do you have a photo that isn't S U P E R - P A N A V I S I O N ? Si. |
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They were not always quite that ugly  If they were built according the their drawings it later modifications that messed them up.  T |
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Just tried to edit the link, to the smaller size pic from the Beadmore page.... doesn't work. Studied the various appliances hung up front on the car.... apparently three (?) radiators two headlights.... wonder about the cylindrical objects.... water expansion tanks? Mufflers? There are also two objects beneath the car.... and, what are those long tubes for? Maybe coolant pipes? |
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corv8 wrote:
It's a wood gasifier unit - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas_generator - used in WW2 when petrol was in short supply. Apparently not too successfully as the bogies from these units were taken to power electric trams and the line reverted to steam power. The bodies were stored post-war but not used - the line closed in the 50's |
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Oh well.... should have recognized this stuff.... we reconstructed a "Holzvergaser" (German for those contraptions) thirty years ago. It actually worked.... Was installed on a Opel Blitz truck. Also once met an old guy in Upper Austria who had installed a gasifier in the trunk of an Austin Cambridge.... Thanks for triggering my memory! Gerold |
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I think this cutie has been up before ... ... but HEY ! ... Why not again ? She popped up in my files this morning . . .  Seen betters days. Originally the property of the E.F.P.P. in Brazil. ( Canadian  Ken probably knows more than I do about her ! ) Is that a really faded Ferrari red ?  Si. |
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This contraption wont exactly qualify as a railbus, but I think you all will love it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Finland-Track-Car-Number-NONE-Orig-KR-rals1715/362633191519  |
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" ... I think you all will love it " Hi Gerold I can't disagree with you on that ! I think it passes as a 'bus' if a V.W. does !!  Another from Google Images of the E.F.P.P. Brazilian railbus. Si. |
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Sorry about the size of the picture on this one ... ... might be time for the magnifiers & Coke-bottle glasses !  Our cute lil Brazilian friend again ... ... but nice to see her in shiny & serviceable condition ! Si. |
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 Mighta been a bus. Interesting chassis details & great photo ! Si. |
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OK fellow railcar nutz...here's the "ultimate" railcar for your perusal. She's a 1926 Rolls Royce built by the Mayo Lumber Co. and later used on the Victoria Lumber & Manufacturing Railroad.  If you gots the bucks (or a suitable RR model) here's what you need. From the Sandy Macham Collection/Tall Timber Short Lines #89. As the caption from this photo reads- "Not all speeders had to be uncomfortable!"... WCG |
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For anyone that likes the curvy French Billard railbuses - here is an entire album of them - https://www.flickr.com/photos/jhm0284/albums/72157686359850144/with/5346391186/ Tom |
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Another oddity ...  Imagine standing at trackside in a dark night with this contraption coming toward you ... Last edited on Mon Jul 1st, 2019 03:24 pm by corv8 |
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Sure is ugly .....should be called The Squid ....... Thanks for posting Corv8. ..........................Peter |
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Interesting section of very modelable wall, with 'Spanish tiles', to the left of the OdD monster ! Si. |
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A railbus ... and/or a tram ? double-ender ? ...  You can decide ... Cute anyway ! ![[whack]](/images/emoticons/Whacko.gif) Si. |
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One of the cars of Pacific Electrics isolated narrow gauge operation on Mt Lowe. I would guess this is a extreme variant of an traditional "California Car", which used to have a closed center section, and two open sided sections back and forth of it. For the Mount Lowe operation they seem to have decided, on large completely open end platforms instead, to allow for unobstructed view of the scenery. The other car I remember was a large open bench double trucker. So maybe the small one was also intended for transporting staff, to Alpine Tavern in bad weather. |
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That Pacific Electric thing from Mount Lowe is interesting. Either of y'all know what it used for current collection? And after asking here, off to play in Google for a couple minutes, to see if I can find out on my own. Have a book here about some of the PE, but it I do not recall it mentioning the narrow gauge operation. |
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Aren't the Mount Lowe car chassis still up on the mountain after they got burned? Tom |
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tebee wrote:
Hmm... There are several stories online of people hiking this area, and checking what's left... Can't remember they found any parts of the vehicles, only foundations of the buildings, the BIG bull gear of the winch that pulled the cars up the incline, a piece of its cable half buried... Wonder how scrappers salvaged all this stuff from this remote location. |
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Kitbash0n30 wrote:
She got juice from a plain trolley pole... Found a picture in the depths of my hard drive.  Entered "Mount Lowe Pacific Electric" as keywords : https://waterandpower.org/museum/Mt_Lowe_Railway.html http://www.erha.org/penml.htm You may also browse this site : https://www.pacificelectric.org/ there is a search option. |
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tebee wrote:
In answer to my own question, yes they are. Fleeting glimpse at about 15 seconds into this video. Maybe more later, not watched it all yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1P6AaOy6mY |
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Hmm... I see axles with gears, and even what seems to be a armature... apparently stored on a piece of track. Astonishing if an electric motor (copper!) would survive for decades, when almost everything else was carried away. I remember I have also read of equipment being dumped down the hillside.  |
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Thanks Gerold! Open seating area's overhead bar with standee strap handles, is definitely a detail of interest. It probably also protected occupants if trolley pole retrieved snatched down a dewired trolley pole. corv8 wrote:
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Kitbash0n30 wrote:
It had short longitudinal seats with their backs against the side of the car, so there would be plenty of room for standees in the middle. They were always short of capacity on the alpine division, as although they had three cars, the only had the electrical capacity to run one at once. Presumably the photos with cars on different levels were staged. Tom |
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There was also a flat work car on the alpine division  According to the text: This photo depicts Pacific Electric flat motor 1520 on the Mt. Lowe line's Alpine Division. This car was built by Pacific Electric in 1914, using Brill trucks from a Los Angeles Traction streetcar (3-foot, 6-inch gauge), to carry freight, in this instance hay for Herbert the mule, who powered open cars for the "One Man and a Mule" railway at top of the line. The flat motor car was left behind after helping to dismantle the Alpine Division in 1938. Metro Library Archive CC shared Tom |
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And another picture of the car remains.  Tom |
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How about this "critter" from the Texas Electric Lines down in Waco, TX...  Just a 4 wheel flat car with an "outhouse" on top. Used for line work, it was powered by an underframe motor. A real piece of work, for sure. Waco is in Central Texas and is the birthplace of many desperadoes like myself. Woodie |
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W C Greene wrote:
Every trolley layout needs a contraption like this... Should be an easy job, a old Brill truck and a Tenshodo SPUD and we are in business. |
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The Mt Lowe operation is was a bit like the Mt. Tamalpias operation just north of San Francisco. The Crookedest Railroad In The World - 'Railroad Books' Forum - Freerails The Mount Tamalpias & Muir Woods Scenic operation was done with Shays and "Gravity Cars", where the cars would be pulled to the top of the mountain and then would coast down into Mill Valley. When it was built, you rode a narrow gauge train into Mill Valley and transferred to the standard gauge Mt Tam operation. Shortly the narrow gauge was "broad gauged" and electrified. The hotel up there burned in 1929, and it was the end of the line for the MT&MWSRR. Thanks for the Mt. Lowe stuff. Very cool. |
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RAILS ! ... RAILS ! ... WE DON'T NEED NO STINKIN' RAILS !!  Arrol-Johnston Motor Cars ? " Specially designed throughout for SOLID TYRES " Bring on the FLANGES ! and VIVA LE REVOLUCION ! Powerful headlamps !Si. |
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 Dug up from 'Google Images' ... ... EFPP from 1978 apparently. Si. |
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New at railfan.northeast.net a Mack railbus on the Arlington & Fairfax. http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/arf113.jpg |
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That has "Build me! In G scale!" written all over it. W C Greene wrote:
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French rubber tired one  Tom |
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tebee wrote:
With those proportions it was born to be animated. |
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Just browsing Flickr.... this thing came up: https://www.flickr.com/photos/25717227@N03/21853929328/in/faves-161161291@N07/ Corrugated sides.... streamlined.... a baby Zephyr in the Andes? And, this one from Ecuador: https://www.flickr.com/photos/railphotoart/46942985242/in/faves-161161291@N07/ |
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One from my files.... East Branch & Lincoln Model A Ford, my guess is way down south.  |
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