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Johnny Registered 
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    Birds made from soft solder. My first attempt. Some good....some not so. Just a little fun and diversion. Camera can't really zoom in much closer....(a good thing...lol) Let's hear from others and see some better attempts. I am ready for some great advise on micro-mini birds!!! lol (Warning: Don't try this in "N" scale!!!) Johnny Last edited on Sun Dec 15th, 2013 05:55 pm by Johnny |
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Si. Moderator 
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'The Birds' ... Hitchcock's finest (& scareyest !). Oscar winning stuff Johnny. I hope those jazzers on the sidewalk don't get pebble-dashed ! Si. Perhaps they have already... ...I can't see... ...must be suma-dat 'fine-scale' $4!7 |
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madmike3434 Registered 
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Those pigeons look as good as what you would pay for in HO or O scale. 8unless somebody has super eye site they are not going to be able to pick out whether you have modeled pigeons, crows or chickens. mike |
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Johnny Registered
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You are too kind sir! I think I have a chicken, a few pigeons and a penguin roosting up there right now....although I have no idea how the penguin got up there!!!! lol Johnny |
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madmike3434 Registered
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If anybody is viewing your Ho scale critters and they happen to whip out a set of binoculars to get a better look....throw a towel over their head. Or barring that, release a bad smell right next to them.............lmao mike  |
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Johnny Registered
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LOL.....right on Mike!!!! Johnny |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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Good job for such a small scale! I've made a few large birds (two hawks and a roadrunner) for my layout but of course I have the advantage of a much, much larger scale (1/24th). I still need to get some smaller birds built to go with the bird poop I painted on the ledges of a couple of my buildings. |
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madmike3434 Registered
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at one time WISEMAN MODEL SERVICES offered either pigeons or chickens in O scale. Couldn't figure out which they were. not sure how they would look in G scale building. Bill Roy ( Mackenzie iron and Steel ) up your way , since passed away, made herons and some other birds in o scale . Again not sure how these would fit in visually for G scale mike |
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Johnny Registered
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Just to give credit where credit is due. My bird inspiration and creative attempt came from an article by Gerry Leone in the December 2013 Model Railroader magazine. (Page 36). It is truly a fun winter-time diversion for people with great eyes or magnifying visors or loops. For all that may want to try their hand at it I advise very small solder wire size and to do it on a white type background and perhaps a small enclosed area. I did not do that at first and I would make one and lose it to the carpet monster. For those with strong eyes I would still suggest eye protection as these little guys are like pieces of shrapnel when they come flying out from the tweezers. I think I might snap a few progress shots on the birds I am still attempting to master. All in fun. Thanks Johnny |
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W C Greene Moderator 
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They look like birds to me. I have heard of modelers using seeds and spices for birds also. Carraway seeds come to mind with bits of paper for wings. Keep going, your birds add detail and look cool. Woodie |
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Johnny Registered
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Alternative sources!!! Never really thought about seeds. Would be concerned about the eventual degradation of the seed but if it were painted/coated it may last a lifetime. Will have to look in to that. How about some origami?!?! ? lolThanks Woodie. Johnny |
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pipopak Moderator 
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How about some origami?!?! In Z scale, of course!. Also having some cravings for the "California salute" variety.... Jose. |
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Johnny Registered
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Okay Jose.....you have "twisted" our interest. "California Salute" variety ? |
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pipopak Moderator
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"California Salute" variety Also known as "the bird of peace". Jose. |
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Si. Moderator
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" the bird poop I painted on the ledges of a couple of my buildings " Hi Ray I had a look for this; but couldn't find it. Could you post a couple of premium poop pictures. Cheers Si. I was interested in trains a week ago... ...now; mainly nail-holes & poop ! |
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pipopak Moderator
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I was interested in trains a week ago... ...now; mainly nail-holes & poop ! I am afraid to ask what the new fad will be... Jose. |
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Johnny Registered
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Glad I could help fellas!!! LOL!!! Next up.....fully operational HO scale toilets!!!! Okay....maybe not but I have a few irons in the fire. Johnny |
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Si. Moderator
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Hi Johnny I believe Jose has already asked Dallas; in the 1:35 sammich-shop thread... ...will there be a super-detailed john out back. Cheers Si. I think 'super-detailed' gum & butts on the side-walk is coming ! |
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Johnny Registered
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I saw a detailed 1/35 Dio on another modeling site with cigarette butts. Awesome!!!! All in fun!!!! Most people will say...life is too short!!! lol Johnny |
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Ray Dunakin Registered
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Here's some "bird poop" on the ledge of my stone building: And a little on top of an old air conditioner I made for the brick building in progress:  |
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madmike3434 Registered
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Now that's modeling, its there but you really have to look at it to pick it out. In my opinion, THATS MODELLING . First person I ever saw do bird droppings = poop, was George Sellios of fine scale miniatures kits fame. George idolized the legendary JOHN ALLEN ( Gorre & Daphetid RR )and got a lot of ideas from what john did in an era ( pre 1970 ) when you had to make your own detail parts. I think I also saw him model birds nests on under the eves around the corner detail trim parts. one kit I had of his #215 Mackenzie milling company actually had a lead casting of a snake. He was the first kit maker to actually model a run down and dilapidated building with holes in the roof. Something else you do not often see modeled is buildings that have burned sections, roof or walls. Now that's hard to model and get it right, I actually set fire to one to get the burning scorching right. have fun with your modeling whether you SUPER DETAIL it, or just build a nice model in like new condition. That can be quite satisfying to actually build as opposed to trying to kill the building. I also had another kit of his #175 I think, had a toilet in it and yes, you know what was in there. I had to look at the bare metal casting with a magnifying glass to actually see it, but there it was. mike........... Last edited on Tue Dec 17th, 2013 04:30 am by madmike3434 |
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pipopak Moderator
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First person I ever saw do bird droppings = poop, was George Sellios of fine scale miniature Actually John Allen did it before around the late 40's with his famous 2 stall enginehouse. Raised quite a ruckus with it!. Jose. |
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Herb Kephart Moderator 
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And they fly!! Out of tweezers, but flying, non the less! Something like that, it is very difficult to find something to hold on to. Just a thought--but can you keep the bird to be attached to the piece of solder by what will eventually be it's head, until the end? Herb |
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Johnny Registered
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Great idea Herb. Right now I am using the squeeze and tease approach. Actually you are giving me some thought that maybe slightly heating the solder would make it more maliable and easier to work and form. What I am trying to achieve is a "scale" bird. The ones I have seen "commercially" just seem to be a bit larger than scale. I am wondering if anyone would venture a go at this in photo-etch brass? (There goes my idea!!! patent pending...lol) Again, for all saying he is nuts, it is all in fun and an interesting detail to attempt. Johnny |
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pipopak Moderator
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As birds come in all sizes and colours, if you intended to model a sparrow but ended way too big, just call it a vulture!. Jose (trying to be helpful as usual). |
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Si. Moderator
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Hi Ray Thanks for 'dropping' those poop-pictures in ... NICE ! I think that's the best 'pouper-detailing' I've ever seen. Subtle ... but at the same time, in yer face ! It seems like a very prototypical splatter-pattern & scaleing. Not yet built up to look like a relief (sorry) map of the Alps ... ... I guess the air-con man has been recently. Pooptastic realism Ray ! 5 MOOSES !!!!! Cheers Si. Don't let a Moose up on the air-con unit ! |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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Remember that eventually rain will wash bird poop off. We cover all kinds of technical s##t here! Herb |
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Johnny Registered
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Never thought I would read so much s##t about scale (bird)s##t when I started this s##t!!!! Shows how topics end up going in all directions. I started with birds and ended up what's left on the ledge. lol!!! I think it is time to "flush" the topic!!! Johnny |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Johnny, don't worry about it.. It's just our way of giving you the bird..If you think this thread has gone sideways, you need to check out my Mogollon Railway thread sometime. And many other threads that Herb reads also. Keep the faith and yes, I do like your birds. Great work...you need more now. Woodie |
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Johnny Registered
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Thanks Woodie. I am just glad I have found a site where I can finally communicate with fellow RR modelers with the same interests as I have. Many of you are true craftsman but at the same time we can laugh at our work and not take it so seriously. There are truly many talented individuals who have shown their work here. I would encourage others to pick up a camera and download your work. The world is waiting to admire your passions and craftsmanship. The feedback is helpful, inspirational and at times hilarious. Many thanks. Johnny Last edited on Thu Dec 19th, 2013 03:46 pm by Johnny |
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madmike3434 Registered
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Herb Kephart wrote:Remember that eventually rain will wash bird poop off. Ever try to get that stuff off your car after a nite of a sitting flock in the branches above your vehicle. Maybe a pressure washer gets it off after a soaking with dishwasher detergent and water.. That's tough S..t . mike |
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Si. Moderator
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Thanks Herb & Mike... ...rain & cleaning are both gonna affect 'poop density'. Perhaps 'chipping' with hairspray could be best for 'pouper-realism' ... ? Si. |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered 
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Here's a pic of my poop  on the top of a G Scale building billboard. I need to add some on the roof too. As far as birds are concerned, if you want O or G scale, you can get tiny plastic dove-like birds from websites that sell wedding supply do-dads. I got a bag of 12 for super cheap. They come in white, and you can paint them anyway you like. D.A. [img]  [/img][img]  [/img] |
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Johnny Registered
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Excellent!! I am a G scaler as well. Great idea. Great detailing. Thanks for the pics. Johnny |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Johnny wrote:Excellent!! Thanks Johnny. Your solder birds look good  ; what scale are they?D.A. |
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In the largest scales you just collect the prototype stuff..... Jose. |
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Johnny Registered
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Thanks D.A. Those are HO scale. My "practice" birds as I call them. LOL!!! Will attempt more shortly. Definitely stirred up some conversation!! Johnny |
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Johnny Registered
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Scale birds and nail heads are sensitive and controversial subjects!!! LOL It is great to hear everyone's angle. Johnny |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Johnny wrote:Scale birds and nail heads are sensitive and controversial subjects!!! LOL So what's your thoughts on nail heads? |
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Johnny Registered
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Refer to "Model Building Aids" forum....Nail Head Device topic. Johnny |
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Hi D.A. 'G'reat work on the large-scale poop. Those big wedding-cake birds sure do poop the place up pretty good. I guess their efforts go un-noticed on normal white cake icing. Top poopin' D.A. !!! Cheers Si. |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Si. wrote:Hi D.A. LOL Si, I aim to please, well, maybe the birds 'aim' to please from eating all that cake! Thanks, D.A. |
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pipopak Moderator
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There's a stink somewhere...... BTW for some reason I recalled the outhouse thread that ran for quite some time in the NMRA Bulletin in the late 70's...... **it happens.... several times!. |
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Si. Moderator
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***** Si. |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Last edited on Fri Jan 10th, 2014 05:26 pm by ModelTrainStructures |
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Johnny Registered
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Last edited on Fri Jan 10th, 2014 06:24 pm by Johnny |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Jose, they called them "biffies", probably due to some concern about the other names. Remember that this thread is about birds so keep it on track. Yesterday, some fellow on the highway gave me the bird...but not quite the same thing. Woodie |
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Hi Woodie A common problem here too. Driving is an exellent vantage point for 'bird research'. Just keep yer eyes & mind on the road as well folks ! Cheers Si. |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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W C Greene wrote:Jose, they called them "biffies", probably due to some concern about the other names. Remember that this thread is about birds so keep it on track. Yesterday, some fellow on the highway gave me the bird...but not quite the same thing. My sincere apologies for letting my sense of humor over-ride the topic. I'm new to the forum, so I was not aware that we couldn't veer from the topic or post humor. I'll be sure to stay strictly on the topic subject without any jokes. I tried to delete the Out House post but didn't see an option, so I deleted the text. I deleted the Grinch photo. Apologies to Johnny for saying Johnny House instead of Out House. Regards, D.A. Last edited on Fri Jan 10th, 2014 06:46 pm by ModelTrainStructures |
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Johnny Registered
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Apology absolutely accepted my friend. I welcome your comments and humor to any of my posts. We shall carry on in friendship and good faith!!! Johnny |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Johnny wrote:Apology absolutely accepted my friend. Thank you; I too will carry on in friendship and good faith. D.A. |
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Johnny Registered
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Excellent D.A. Let's get another topic going and stir it up!!! LOL Johnny |
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Si. Moderator
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" My sincere apologies for letting my sense of humor over-ride the topic. I'm new to the forum, so I was not aware that we couldn't veer from the topic or post humor. I'll be sure to stay strictly on the topic subject without any jokes. " - - - - - - - Hi D.A. There's always room for a joke & a laugh at Freerails; if you ask me ... ... Some railroad-sites seem to have a pine-cone up their coupler-pocket ... ... pleased to say it ain't so here. (just have to be a bit carefull, is all) Cheers Si. Pooptastic work again D.A. ! |
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ModelTrainStructures Registered
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Thanks Si I certainly appreciate it. Humor is good medicine.  D.A. |
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Paglesham Registered
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Gents, it's great to see soft solder used as a modelling material. I used some solder wire to make a knife, fork and spoon in my Lantern Cafe. Just by squashing it into usable shapes. This was in 7mm scale O gauge. Cheers, Martin |
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