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"Naval Gun on Manila Dagupan Railcar" (c. 1899!)



Somehow this just "looks right" for an On30 or 35n2 outlaw layout ... and "Manila Guerrillas" is fun to say! :)

Coming soon:  The Manila Guerrillas Short Line

Motto:  "Get the (bleep) outta the way!" :) :mex:

(Not too sure I'd wanna be that front gunner ...)

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OK Dallas, now you done it! I will buid a "car" to be pushed ahead of the locos which will feature a couple of sombrero wearing commancheros and a couple of those fine 1:35 scale BAR's or other machine guns which I have in abundance. A box full of ammo and maybe a few grenades...and of course, a few bottles of hooch for that thankless job of being the "watchman". Beware.

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MAN oh MAN!  I got to build one of those!  I saw this little euro style 4 wheel car the other day just begging for a set up like that.
That picture is awesome.  Can't wait to see Homeland Security* in effect on the Mogllon Ry.

Carry on sir!
:Salute:
Sgt.  Dan B
military railroad gunner 2nd class

*or more likely insecurity for the local inhabitants

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OK I'll 'fess up - I built an armoured train in On30 way back in 2003 as the Porter Protection Plan - a way of keeping varmints away who wanted to weather my then brand new Bachmann Porter 0-4-0 saddle tanker.

The train consisted of:
a mine-detector car (standard Bachmann On30 V-tip loaded with rocks
a spacer car - (Peco 4-wheel O-16.5 flatcar) to keep the B00M! away
MaxiBoom - Turret mounted heavy gun (timpo civil war field gun mounted in a aerosol lid on an old Triang bogie flat car with radar direction finder from a Ghostbusters car kit)
The Porter - shrouded in styrene armour with 1/35 scale .50cal above the cab on a parapet (originally I wanted a 1/48 rear gun turret from a B17 or B24 with quad .50's but couldn't find any at the time)
Multiboom - for close in fire support (Timpo Civil war Gatling gun mounted in a smaller aerosol lid on another Peco O-16.5 4-wheel flat car.
a trailing spacer car (as in car 2 above)
a trailing mine-detector car (as in car 1 above)

I'll try and find some photos - where would you like them posted to?
Regards,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz

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oztrainz wrote: I'll try and find some photos - where would you like them posted to?
Hi John --

Sounds cool!  You could post them right here to this thread to go with the "theme" ... or start a new thread in the On30 section.

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The 15" RH&DR in Kent...

( out back from my Grandmothers place )

...had an armoured train during WWII.

Didn't see any action though...
...thank goodness !

Nice proto-pix Dallas !

Cheers

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Hi Si and Dallas
a photo of the RH&D armoured train is up on wikipedia at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Romney,_Hythe_and_Dymchurch_armoured_train.jpg The leading wagon has a Boys anti-tank rifle and the wagon behind the loco "Typhoon" is fitted with a Lewis machine gun. There was some discussion about how the train was armed on the Gnatterbox Gn15 forum some years back.

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That's a pretty cool photo. Wish we could see what the rest of the train looked like.

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Hi Mike
Found it!!!!
http://www.narrow-gauge-pleasure.co.uk/images/armouredtrain.jpg

Regards,
John

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Hi John

Nice linkeys !

The first is 'the classic pic'...
...the one I know anyhow.

Thanks for the 2nd one...
...NEVER seen that one before.

Interesting to see the side-view.

I dunno what they thought they were gonna do with it; if half the German army came floating across the English Channel.

But I guess it made 'patroling' the coast a bit easier (maybe).

I believe the RH&DR was 'double track' all the way to Dungeness before WWII...
...when they ripped up the rails for scrap-iron...
...and never relaid it to this day.

An AMAZING and 'different' to 'most' Brit NG railways...
...I've never seen it modelled though...
...bet someone's had a bash at a bit in Gn15 though...
...or maybe OO etc.

I wanna go look now !

Cheers oxtrains

Si.

PS
My favorite 'armoured'ish (military) trains...
...I think, are from Sam Peckinpah's movie 'The Wild Bunch'.

Mexican revolution era.
One gets robbed (US Army one)
&
The other is the 'mobile HQ of the Mexican General.

Great train stuff on 'The Wild Bunch'

( standard gauge though folks ! )


PPSS
Dallas...
...I was admiring your US Army car on the 'no switch' micro-diorama...
...N I C E...
You must have a 'thing' for a military train or two ?

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Hi all,
Might as well keep it all together here. I couldn't find my original photos, so these are pulled back off the On30Conspiracy Yahoo Group where I posted them many years ago...when the Photos storage space was severely limited.

First up the Porter Protection Plan on display in early 2006

The spacer flat cars were not on display that day

Next up - MaxiBOOM - complete with Ghostbusters radar range finder - for "long range" varmint suppression


Next up - MultiBOOM - when one BANG is simply not enough - for "close-in" varmint suppression


Yes Virginia, there really is a Porter under there


Enjoy,
John Garaty
Unanderra in oz

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Awesome train, John!

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Si. wrote: Dallas...
...I was admiring your US Army car on the 'no switch' micro-diorama...
...N I C E...
You must have a 'thing' for a military train or two ?

Hmm ... that's actually the first "military" subject that I've modeled!  Generally not a big "guns & ammo" kinda guy, but I do REALLY like the 60cm gauge WW1 railway equipment and hope to model some of that eventually ...

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Dallas_M wrote: Si. wrote: Dallas...
...I was admiring your US Army car on the 'no switch' micro-diorama...
...N I C E...
You must have a 'thing' for a military train or two ?

Hmm ... that's actually the first "military" subject that I've modeled!  Generally not a big "guns & ammo" kinda guy, but I do REALLY like the 60cm gauge WW1 railway equipment and hope to model some of that eventually ...

Dallas,

If you ever decide to offer 60cm gauge trench railroad models they'd better be in 1:35 scale or I'll never forgive you... Not true;) If you ever offer anything about that subject in O scale or 1:35 I'll be one of your first customers.

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Hi all,
the correct photo for MultiBOOM is now up in its correct spot.

Repeat 20 times "I must re-read my posts before hitting SEND":doh:

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BOOM !

Si.

Nice train John !

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Hi all
:!: for additional information and inspiration on things armoured on rails,
Google up "fahrpanzer" and "Tin Turtle" ;)

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I've got plans for the Simplex Tin Turtle. Someone posted them here at Free Raills sometime back. I'm not good at digging them up however. I could re- post them if someone wanted.

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mwiz64 wrote: I've got plans for the Simplex Tin Turtle. Someone posted them here at Free Raills sometime back. I'm not good at digging them up however. I could re- post them if someone wanted.
Here:
http://www.freerails.com/view_post.php?post_id=33973

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Here is a link to a 1:32 scale un armored Simplex.... And lots of other trench railway stuff.

http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Scalelink_Narrow_Gauge__60cm__Railway_33.html

As soon as the hobby fund recovers some I going to buy several of those models..... Including the Simplex.

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Hi all,
from another forum, here is a link to a s/g WW1 armoured loco
http://digitalcollections.smu.edu/cdm/singleitem/collection/eaa/id/379/rec/3

:shocked: Kind of makes my armoured Porter look good :bg:

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Each time I see the photo of that RH&D armored train, I wonder if anyone considered that recoil might knock the silly thing over.

As for the movie, Two thumbs up! Gomez Addams couldn't get those results, but probably wished that he could!

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Herb Kephart wrote:
As for the movie, Two thumbs up! Gomez Addams couldn't get those results, but probably wished that he could!Oh, it's easy, you just need to buy a few dozen flat cars, as many tanks, self-propelled guns and halftracks, then find a spot where nobody goes nuts when you toss it all down an embankment.
I'm surprised this movie doesn't have the following that the movie, "The Train" has, in that these crash scenes are far and clear the most ambitious I've ever even heard of in any film.
The only way they could film this, I guess, was given the timeframe, the French had zero need for German tanks and tracked vehicles so they were probably going to scrap anyway. That said, the French army was using German Panther tanks in Indochina, so I guess the ones that went sailing for this movie must have been badly damaged and weren't runnable at the time to be of any use.


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