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mwiz64 Registered 
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Has anyone here used Archer rivet decal sheets? They look interesting. I'm just wondering if they turn out well or if they are particularly hard to use. Thanks in advance Last edited on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 04:37 pm by mwiz64 |
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mabloodhound Registered 
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I picked some up at the big Springfield show on Sunday and will be trying them out, but probably not right away. They're not cheap though. |
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Dallas_M Registered
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The Archer ones work well, nice thin film -- that becomes almost completely invisible with Vallejo decal solutions (or similar stuff most likely) ... Micro-Mark makes cheaper ones ... useful, but thicker film & quality not as good as the Archer (IMO). |
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mwiz64 Registered
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I know... They're not cheap but I want to give them a try. I'm going to build a rectangular tank car to house the battery for my Brookville. The way it is, no 2 cell lipo pack that I have found fits. I sort of knew that was going to be the case once I had it done. Oh well, a little tank car will be cool! Thanks for the info guys! Last edited on Mon Jan 28th, 2013 06:50 pm by mwiz64 |
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Herb Kephart Moderator 
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Phoney rivets reminds me of something that I heard over the weekend. A local tourist railroad, the Wilmington and Western had a tender for one of their steamers that was nothing but a bunch of leaky patches, so they let out a contract to have a new body built. The new piece was of welded construction and has cosmetic rivet heads spotwelded on the outside. No, Si, Herb-o-Matic does NOT make a rivet press that robust! Herb |
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W C Greene Moderator 
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Yes, I will keep my Kephart-O-Matic rivet machine. I have used the decal rivets and while they are easy to apply, they just don't seem to have the same "depth" that punched rivets have. In large scales, those modelers use N scale track nails which really look right! But whatever floats yer boat is OK by me. Woodie |
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mwiz64 Registered
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I'm just looking for possibilities. I have friends that build amazing 1/5 scale warbirds. They painstakingly place every single rivet by hand. Now imagine spending a couple hundred hours riveting..... I don't think a rivet punch would work well on styrene, would it? I also don't think I can work with brass very well. I might consider using nail heads but I don't want a few giant rivets in this location. More smaller ones would be more realistic, IMHO. That said.... Herb, would you be willing to build me one of your presses if I paid you for it? Last edited on Tue Jan 29th, 2013 01:42 pm by mwiz64 |
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W C Greene Moderator
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Mike-I have used the rivet machine in .020 and .030 styrene. You just need to adjust the "whack" pressure to suit. Woodie |
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mwiz64 Registered
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Herb says that NWSL makes one similar to his. I'm going to go check it out. Maybe that's just what the doctor ordered. At the price of those decals I'm sure one could buy a press in short order. |
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mwiz64 Registered
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Holy Smokes! I spoke too soon. The NWSL punch is $130 and riveter is another $90. That's quite an investment. I may just hold off on that purchase for a little while. |
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Bernd Registered
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Here ya go. A DYI rivet punch. Scroll down about half way. http://www.mylargescale.com/Features/BuildersLogs/tabid/66/EntryId/41/Bashing-a-Ruby-Kit.aspx Bernd |
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mwiz64 Registered
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Interesting... I have a table top drill press. There is a fair amount of slop in the bearings. I wonder if its accurate enough. I might have see for myself. |
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Bernd Registered
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Here's one a made about 30 years ago at the place I worked. I was working in the tool room at the time and had much available to me in machinery and materials. It's made out of one piece of cast iron, steel and hardened steel. Here's a sample of the rivets it does in .010" thicj brass. They are just random. I usally use a straight edge to make a straighter line.  Bernd |
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Philip Registered
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thats a nice jig! What is the name of that company that make micro rivet/nuts / bolts that are steel or brass?philip Last edited on Wed Jan 30th, 2013 05:20 pm by Philip |
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Bernd Registered
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Thanks Phil, Is this the company your thinking of. //http://www.microfasteners.com/ Bernd |
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Herb Kephart Moderator
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That's a right nice loco that the fellow on MLS made from the rather bare bones Ruby Herb |
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Philip Registered
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Bernd wrote:Thanks Phil, No, but thank you. This one but expensive: http://www.scalehardware.com/miniature-rivets-c-10 Philip |
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mwiz64 Registered
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Those are interesting... Thanks, Phillip. |
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chasv Registered 
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use a tooth pick and dab glue for rivet heads once panted thy look ok |
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CarlOn30 Registered
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Micro Mark sells a similar set of rivets as Archer, they are cheaper and you get more rivets per sheet. I have a set of sheets but have not had a chance to use them yet. Carl |
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