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A Shay For Southpaws - They Really DID EXIST !
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 Posted: Sun Dec 16th, 2012 02:58 pm
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Shays ALWAYS had the cylinders and drive train on the right hand side -

viewed from the engineers position with the smokebox forward.


ALWAYS, except---


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Just remember  "the ship LEFT PORT"

Also, if looking at the running lights "PORT is a RED wine"

Over consumption of the later makes the former harder to remember.

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Perhaps the biggest reason that I filched and posted that photo-
is because a "master" model railroader told me that there was NEVER a left hand drive Shay locomotive.

We actually had somewhat of an "argument" about this.
He informed me that he was an MMR (master model railroader) and knew all there was to know.

I came back with the fact that I am an MMR also-
Monkey Model Railroader, so says the NMRA (National Monkey Railroad Assn.) located in Bogota.
 
That could be why we look the other way when we see each other at the local "train shows".
It's so nice to know people in such high places!

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Interesting!


Just yesterday I was looking at the Shay in the 'Ford' Sawmill.

'Loco #2' I think was the Sawmill designation.


It was left-handed as well.





http://www.baragacountyhistoricalmuseum.com/photohistory/picture_ford_sawmill_1920s_locomotive2_1.JPG

So there must have been a number of lefties.

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Tom-that Shay appears to be a regular right handed model.
Looking from rear to front, the cylinders and gearing is on the right side.

There were only 4 left-side models made by Lima, and they all went to the same RR in Mexico.

Maybe somebody will/has made a model of a southpaw...
I would like to see a photo or two.

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Oh, I see.

I thought those vertical cylinders indicated the drive mechanism was on the left.

Thanks for being so patient with my rookie errors.

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It's OK, the vertical cylinder is a Westinghouse air pump.
That's because there is so much detail on the engineer's side, they thought some details on the fireman's side would be cool.
Shays are funny animals.

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Where was that Ford Shay located?

It has some interesting covers over the sides of the trucks.

I wonder why.

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That Shay looks different than the others on that side.

It's because Henry Ford did not like the 'offset' of the boiler when he looked at the front of the unit.


In the Shay book by Koch, there is an explanation that Henry Ford had his people center the boiler.

They then had to put the air-pump on that side, because there was no room for it on the other.


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Phil-the covers were to keep rocks, etc. from getting into the gears.
I do wonder why the covers were on the non-geared side however.
More "details" ?

Nathan-thanks for the info.
I assume that the Shay was painted black because Henry wanted it that way.

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