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 Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 06:53 pm
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Daniel sold the last remains from the FCALV models few weeks ago, and I managed to get some unfinished prototypes, parts etc. Now I'm about completing two passenger cars, and I tried to make some handrails. I used simply .020 spring wire and handbrake wheels from Foothill Model Works.





Because you know a lot more about american railroads than me :bg: my questions are:
Does it generally look right or is something missed?
Is the axle of the brake wheel fixed at the handrail (some kind of bearing etc)?

Any suggestions welcome
Michael

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 Posted: Tue Jul 31st, 2012 07:15 pm
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Michael-

Because the car has end doors, the end hand rail would likely be two separate handrails with a space between them so that passengers could walk from one car to another coupled to it, without climbing down to the ground.

Some times there was a short piece of chain across the gap, to discourage passengers from doing this when the train was in motion, which the conductor would unhook when the train was in the station.

Also, (so that it wasn't in the way of the above) the brake wheel would have to move towards the steps.

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Spot on, as usual Herb !

Must be the beans.

Cheers

Si.

If yer wanna get fiddly...
...a tiny piece of styrene, with a NBW head & a hole, at the ends of the side handrails could be good.
But hey...
...there are only so many hours in the day.

Great work on the car dude.
I read about those cars on the forum.
You're lucky to have one.
Great stock !!!



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If you look at this image of a car in need of minor restoration - on top of the end nearest the camera you can see both side handrails and how the brake staff is attached.

What we tend to use on our models is only a vauge approximation.




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Nice photo Tom.

He who dies with his favorite trains WINS !!!!
( sort-of )

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Thanks to all for the answers and the very useful pic. (Reminds me of the old sentence "Where there's scrap, there's hope" :bg: )

I have seen similar handrails before, but I was in doubt, if those are in use on the tiny 18" cars with only 5' width too.

Michael

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The car in the picture I posted earlier is from a Brazilian 2ft 6" gauge mineral line. This is what it looked like as recently as 1982




I'd guess it was about 6ft -6ft 6 inch wide.

What I was trying to find when I found this was Thor Windbergs photo site on the 2ft gauge Perus Pirapora line which has several good photos of the passenger cars there, including one in a similar state. These are quite small, probably near 5ft width.

Origin site for the photos (in Portuguese) is http://trilhosdooeste.blogspot.fr/2011/09/harlan-hollingsworth-na-bitolinha.html



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And of course, 2 minutes after I post that I find a link to the site I was looking for in the first place.

Some good detail shots here of 2ft gauge cars.

http://www.thorsteamworld.com/photos/pbsc.asp?category=Car&sc=Trucks&road=+EFPP&rn=No.4




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Thanks again, Tom...

Here's my next attempt (not yet adjusted):



Michael

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As it happens I'd been researching the same information a couple of weeks ago when I was doing my own cars so it was fresh in my mind.

I ended up doing a simplified version myself.




I rather think there are more people who have seen some sort of approximation on models than know what it should be like in real life. The approximations are becoming accepted as what it should be like rather than the real thing.

So what ever you do most people will be happy.

Incidentally, the restored passenger car on the Perus Pirapora line does seem to have a some simpler arrangement, but I've not been able to find any good clear views of it. It could be this has been changed in the restoration or because I very much suspect it's a home built one - it's got very few windows and is on freight trucks rather than passenger ones.

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