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Very nice work on the flanger, Si

I like the under the floor mechanism a lot!

Keep us in mind with photos of other projects please.



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Yow! That's a really nice model you've built. It's stuff like this that keeps me coming back to this site even though I'm more of a toy train guy than a modeler.

Thanks for posting it up.

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Hi TGB

Did I ever mention that I don't like trains !

I LOVE 'EM !!!

Thanks for your kind words.
I have some other details to put up about it ( if I can find the darn plans ! )
It was a bit late, by the time I got the photos uploaded.
Here's a bit more on it, for now.

Anyone that recognises the prototype, will probably be SHOCKED !
But my story is...
...it was the 2-bit logging outfit, that bought the car from the original operators fault !!!

It's modelled in 1:48 American 'O' Scale 1/4" ( 6.35mm ) per Foot.
I say that 'cos us Brit's do 'O' Scale different.
'O' Scale in the UK normaly means 7mm per Foot.
Which works out at a very annoying ratio of 1:43.571429
( don't worry, I aint a 'pit-nicker' )
1:43 seems to be a popular slot-car scale; along with 1:32 & 1:24 ( & now 1:28 as well, for some bizare reason ! )

As Herb rightly points out; It is a 'Flanger'.
When I built it; I had no idea what a 'Flanger' was.
So I thought it was 'cool' ( no pun intended ! ) to build one.
I'm not sure it gets cold enough or icy enough in the UK to need them.
( go on someone, tell me Blightey has Flangers ! )

So for anyone who doesn't know...
...It's a work-car; with the blade mounted on the underframe, used to clear ice from the track rails.
The blade can be moved up & down from inside the car, when the Flanger gets to RR-crossings & switches etc.

Some years ago I sold my 1/4" narrow gauge models ( which I kinda regret now ); but kept this one.
Hence the reason that this little baby aint on no rails in the photographs !
( Oh...I do have a Grandt-Line 'Miner', in the classic 'sleep-walking pose' as well ! )

When I find the plans, I'll put some more info up on it.
In the meantime...
...what is the mystery car ?...
...where did it come from ?

I wonder if anyone knows ?

Cheers

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Si-that's a great model! I believe it follows a Sandy River two footer prototype but it might be a Kennebeck Central job...or ?????. Anyway, very nice and quite fine detailing. As we say here in Tejas-"you dun good, kid!" As for modeling a piece of snow removal equipment when your layout has no snow, how about when there's a cricket infestation and the car is called upon to scrape the critters off the rails. Don't laugh, it really happens in the South and SW US. I give it 5 stars and it has a great beat!

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Hi Woodie

Yeah...I saw you have a bit of a 'miniature pumpkin problem' on The Mogollon as well.
Maybe you could 'flange harvest' those little critters off the right of way; with some converted snow clearing junk !
( as for the cricketers, they can keep 'The Ashes', as far as I'm concerned ! )

*******

Well Woodie doesn't suffer from snow-blindness...
...when it comes to - 'know your Flangers of the US' - time !
( especialy one with the magic 24" between them ! )

THE FACT :-
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Well...the fact is I still haven't located the plans I worked from.
I was just hopeing to say who drew them & where & when they were published.
I think they were from the NG&SLG, sometime in the mid '80s.
( well that 'narrows' it down a bit ! )
Anyhow...
...that's all for the pit-nickers.

1st prize to Woodie for the SR&RL spot ! ( a lb of genuine English ice ! )

The car IS one of 'Sandy River & Rangley Lakes' Flangers.
They had a few; the plans would tell me what # they called this one.

I realy enjoyed making this car; so when I sold my other 'O' Scale stuff, I kept this one for the memory.
( it reminds me of time spent modelling, in Kent, when my Mum was still with us )

It's a very faithfull to the original model.
Except for 1 thing !!!

THE FICTION :-
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The little SR&RL Flanger was purchased in an auction ( NO NOT eBay ! )...
...and shipped back West by the new owners.

Being the 2-bit 'seat of the pants' logging outfit that they were; they thought it would come in handy for the new timber track they were laying, somewhere up in Washington state.

What they didn't realise was, back East in Maine, they did things about a foot narrower, than these boys had figured !

So the funky little 2 axle, 4 wheel SR&RL car; had to loose it's pointy pedestals & get a new set of wheelies...
...and it just so happened that the chief-engineer had a spare set of 3' D&RG arch-bars; that had been aquired from a Mr. Grandt Line, out in Colorado.

So the logging railroad's shop guys, gotta hammerin' & a bangin' away on the cute little 2 footer; and came up with this !
( they also bunged on a pair of very un-prototypical knuckle-couplers whilst they were at it ! )

So there we go !

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More funky-junk to follow.......

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Hi guys.

Just trying to post my photos, from Google Picasa...
...fingers crossed !

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Ah ha...
...now that's better.
( I hope )

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Hi again

I just found my railraod drawings file !!!

HORAY !!!

So proper details of the SR&RL Flanger coming up.
Might be of interest to people; as this Flanger, so I re-discovered, still exists & can be seen in Maine today !

I am going to re-post the Flanger photographs also; as the previous ones came out pretty low-res, with not much texture showing through.

I now have the hang of posting pics !

Flanger details & more 'funky-junk' to follow...

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:Salute:..." YESIR !...RIGHT AWAY SIR...we'll get the ice cleared off those rails Sir ! "

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Sandy River & Rangeley Lakes, Flanger #503

( no they didn't have 500 of 'em !!!... although the did have a lot of snow & ice ! )

( also see note in previous post, as to the trucks fitted on my model version )

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Right... thats all folks... new high-res Flanger photos posted !

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Vacuum tubes?

Mine is driven by a gerbil exercise wheel.

Of course, I have to feed the dang critter to get him to run----



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Mighty fancy diagonal end siding.   Not sure Mainers would have spent the money for that.:)
PS.   Mr. Grandt Line is in Kali-fornia.
Really nice work Si.
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Hi MBH

Thanks for the thumbs-up on the Flanger.
She was a fun little model to build !

Mighty fancy diagonal end siding...indeed.
Not sure it would have cost anymore, in timber & nails, to make her this way though.

The saw-cuts on the boards would have been around 40% longer than on a straight board however.
Perhaps a quicker worn out saw, could have bumped the cost up a bit !

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Flanger #503 ( this one ) & #504, were both originally built for the 'Franklin & Megantic Railroad'; which later became part of the SR&RL ( along with the 'Sandy River Railroad' and the 'Phillips & Rangeley Railroad' ).

This car #503, was built in 1904 by 'Hammond', of Fitchburg Massachusetts; and sported racey little 3/4 MCB Climax couplers !

Flanger's #503 & #504 were slightly different in appearance to one another ( and to the other 4 SR&RL Flangers ).
#503 is the only car of the 6, to have a curved roof ( the others all had a 'V type' regular boxcar roof ).
#503 is also the only car of the 6, to have larger, six-pane side-windows ( the others, including the 2nd F&M car, had slightly smaller four-pane side-windows ).

Both cars that originally came from the Franklin & Megantic Railroad; did indeed have 'diagonal end siding'.
Very cool looking it is, as well.

With it's curved-roof, six-pane side windows, & central end-doors with panelling and glass; #503 realy is the peach of the bunch !

So why the diagonal end siding ?
Mmmm...

Well...
...could it be that the car-builder had felt it might add some kind of extra torsional-strength to the construction of a car with central end-doors ?
If only to stop the end-door frames, going out of true.
( perhaps the curved roof was added for strength also )

Or did they just reckon it looked cute ?

Having just looked over the plans I built the model from, for the first time in many years...
...I just noticed another 'different feature' of #503; which is clearly visible in the photographs I have of these cars.
#503 has substantialy larger cross-section, end-beams, than the other cars seem to.

The guy who drew the plans for Flanger #503, indicates 5"x6" end-beams ( whoops ! ).
In the photos, the end-beams on #503 look more like 8"x6" to me.
( hard to tell exactly; but most certainly, a lot bigger than the drawn plans indicate )

That car-builder had strength in mind, when putting #503 together, by the looks of things.

Riding the Flangers must have been a pretty rough-journey.
Certainly the kind of forces at work on the Flanger blade must have been quite extreme ( especialy getting to 'stickey bits' ! ).

I have no idea what the actual Flanger mechanism itself, inside the car, looks like; but the exterior photos show the flanging-blade, to be of substantial & reinforced construction.
With heavy-duty tether-chains as well.

The drawings also indicate #503 had, single-skin, un-insulated car sides ( Oh well they did have a pot-belly stove; but I'm not sure the coffee-jug would have stayed put, with the kind of jarring it must have got ! )

The #503 SR&RL Flanger somehow survived the break-up of the SR&RL around 1935/36.

She is now on display at 'Sandy River Park', in Phillips, Maine.

Cheers

Si.

Go on folks...
...get yourselves over to Maine & pay her a visit...
...she'd love to see you !!!

Just don't go in the winter !...
..tis bit chilly.

BBBBBbbbbbrrrrr.....

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Hi guys

I am interested in other things beside Flangers you know !!!
( just thought I'd say that )

I also like SNOW-PLOUGHS !!!

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Had a quick surf on the ol' inter whatsname...
...& came up with a bit more Flanger stuff !!!

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It seems SR&RL Flanger #503 might not be in 'Sandy River Park' anymore...
...here's a great photo of her, lettered as 'Franklin & Megantic Railroad' #5 ( as she originally was ! ).

SR&RL Flanger #503 - Lettered as F&MRR #5 - Present Day

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Here's a nice and concise ( but good ) potted history; of when and why, the 3 Maine two-footer railroads ( that together became the SR&RL ) were built.

Maine 2 Footers - Potted History - Text

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Here's rather a nice original B&W photo of Loco, Flanger, Combine, & Passenger Car...
...in quite a bit of snow !

SR&RL #6 in January 1908 (right after the SR&RL consolidation); hauling an F&M flanger and at least two cars, out of Strong Station.
The two men are fireman Charles French and engineer Dan Cushman.

SR&RL Loco #6 - Hauls Flanger Train - 1908

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Cheers

Si.

P.S. - It also seems that the date of #503's construction on my drawings ( of 1904 ) may be wrong.
Found 2 other possible construction dates...
...the first being 1901...
...the second even earlier, in 1890 !!!

Who knows ? Who cares ? Who's right ?
I couldn't begin to guess !

I just like a bit of the history & car-building details.

I DON'T PICK NITS !!!

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:old dude:  " Oh no !  It's that guy, on about Flangers again ! "

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Here's a nice drawing of what is 'almost certainly' SR&RL Flanger #502.
Originally built for the Sandy River Railroad.

She was about 19' 8" long & 6' 6" wide; with the 'V' profile boxcar style roof, that was on all these cars, except for #503.

The end furthest from the 4-pane side-window; had a centraly fitted door, with a window either side.
The end nearest the 4-pane side-window; had an offset fitted door, with 1 centraly fitted window.
The offset door was fitted at that end of the car, to clear the levers which operated the Flanger blade, from inside.

The photo I have of Flanger #502, shows it without a stove-pipe.
The drawing shows it with one !
Perhaps it fell off !!! ( all the Flangers had stoves, as far as I know ).

Only a side-elevation, I'm afraid, but a very high-res & nicely done drawing.

Line Drawing - Flanger #502

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:Salute:   " YESIR...right away SIR...We'll put a stop to that guy posting Flanger stuff ! "

:mex:   " Oh Yeah ? "

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HELP MY FLANGER'S GOT A TOUCH OF ROT !!!

Anyone who likes those photos, or models, of rotted-out & falling apart old cars...
...is gonna LOVE this !

SR&RL Flanger #505, after being 'in the woods' for probably 70 odd years !
( I thought it was cold in Maine; I'm surprised no ones had her for firewood )

SR&RL Flanger #505 - Rotting in the woods

Yeah...the paints peeled A BIT !
Don't ask me how they knew she was #505.

Anyhow...
...they reckon she's restorable ( good luck ! ).
Here she is; hauled back to the roundhouse, for a lick of new paint ( and everything else by the looks of things ! )

SR&RL Flanger #505 - Hauled back to the roundhouse

Wodurfink Alb's ?   :brill:   Doable ?

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Of course it's restorable!!

They will just measure the crumbs that are left and build a new one.

I will wager that there isn't one bit of wood in that thing that doesn't have some significant rot.


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Hi Herb

Sorry, I'm not going to bet with you on that one !
( I like at least a 50/50 chance of a win )

A house of cards it certainly is !
I'm surprised it hadn't fallen apart completely.
( good quality iron, back in those days )

Don't know how they got it back to that roundhouse in 1 piece.
( perhaps the winter ice in Maine held it together )

Cheers

Si.

If it's like the old wooden ships they dig up from the ocean bed...
...you're right Herb, 0.001% crumbs...
...and 99.999% NEW !

When you visit the famous old wooden ships...
...you can usualy buy a piece of 'original' rotten-ship, cast into clear acrylic.
( stops the termites getting out & into your floor-boards ! )

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Wow that is marverless well done

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Thanks Paul

Wish I could do water as good as you though !!!

Jees, I might have to do some soon as well !

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Hi guys

No more Flanger stuff, I swear !!!

The drawing's however came from the following sources :-

FINELINES - March 1969 - Volume 5 No.6

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NG&SLG - Sept/Oct - 1986 - Volume - FU...

...so THERE !!!

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1/2" stuff to follow.... eghg !!!

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Here's some dude's of the 54mm high type, that could be doin' some bad ass s$%t on your layout, today !

The brothers is cool...




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Seem to have a lot of figures at present...

1:35 1:32 1:24

&

Yes !

Even...

1:12 !

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If anyone want's to jump in and talk about placky people...
...please do so !!!

We love 'em !

Warren... Where are you ?

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More placky people to follow...

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This should have gone up with the SR&RL stuff...

...a very funky railcar / speeder.

Just a nice picture, in colour !

SR&RL Railcar / Speeder

S. Earle / K. Berlo Inspection Car ( 2-4 passenger, Fairmont motor )

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Yep, that's a real cutie! I gots one like that only she ain't got a top...ya know...topless!

Woodie

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Topless works for me Woodie !

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Did you post, or post a link to any photos of wee folks in the above messages?

Those (if any) and you avatar are missing--

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Hi Herb

No I didn't post any links.
I will try & put some more photos up soon though.
Avatar seems to be back now.

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Well peeps...

...a few pics of scenery...collected recently...
...some kinda 'Llama Farm'...Mmm...?

Beeaan meaning to post this for a bit...
...

Herb remined me how only John Allen could build a Railroad through...
...what he did !!!

& that as a kid that ROCKED my world...
...John - You never did get me OVER 'high' tressles !

But maybe now...we go 'a bit' flat !

Anyways...this is 'but a bit' of this...

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If yer railroad just can't get a car to the head...
...them hilllys are just TOO John Allen...!
...then you probably need a LLAMA !!!

So to the 'Llama Farm'...
...NO LOCY's...just LLAMAS !!!

No carbon fuel needed...
Good on STEEP grades...
Grumpy most of the time ! ( who wouldn't be ! ).

Blurb...
Burr...
Blb !

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Hi guys...
...I wanted to put some 'talk' in between the pics...
...but don't seem to know how...
...Oh well...Llama Farm...Anyhow !

Si.

More...

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Mmm...
Dunno what happened with image posting...
...if I can figure it out... more soon.

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Yeah...more random 'Llama Farm' doodly-whATT !!...

Si.

Mmmm...Don't seem to be able to post more pics...
...AARrrahhhhh !!!

Will try again...

Si.

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Well those Llamas just ain't around...YET...
...Those furry critter's gotta betta pull than a garret on a 20% any day !!!
Yeah...

Boo...Yah...

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Bah...

Lllllaaaaa.........ma.........

Beats a locy...any daycy...!

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Llama milk...by the churn full !


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...Tasty greens in that shed !

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...Llama milk...CHURNED....not a locy in sight !

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...Lla lla bamba...lla. lla.lla.la.la.bamba!!!

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ZZZzzz...   Llama La...la...




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Nice looking flanger!

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Thanks Ray !

Did you like the Llama's though ?

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EMU's

The future is in emus Si

Better buy stock and get in early

Just a suggestion from a guy who is never right.

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Arr !

'Electric Multiple Units' !
( overhead; NOT 3rd rail; I presume Sir )

Cheers

Si.

Very funny, Herb. Now beam down my Llamas !


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