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 Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 12:13 am
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 Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 12:29 am
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Right... thats all folks... new high-res Flanger photos posted !

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 Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 05:32 pm
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Vacuum tubes?

Mine is driven by a gerbil exercise wheel.

Of course, I have to feed the dang critter to get him to run----



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 Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 06:39 pm
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Mighty fancy diagonal end siding.   Not sure Mainers would have spent the money for that.:)
PS.   Mr. Grandt Line is in Kali-fornia.
Really nice work Si.
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 Posted: Sun Mar 4th, 2012 09:55 pm
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Hi MBH

Thanks for the thumbs-up on the Flanger.
She was a fun little model to build !

Mighty fancy diagonal end siding...indeed.
Not sure it would have cost anymore, in timber & nails, to make her this way though.

The saw-cuts on the boards would have been around 40% longer than on a straight board however.
Perhaps a quicker worn out saw, could have bumped the cost up a bit !

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Flanger #503 ( this one ) & #504, were both originally built for the 'Franklin & Megantic Railroad'; which later became part of the SR&RL ( along with the 'Sandy River Railroad' and the 'Phillips & Rangeley Railroad' ).

This car #503, was built in 1904 by 'Hammond', of Fitchburg Massachusetts; and sported racey little 3/4 MCB Climax couplers !

Flanger's #503 & #504 were slightly different in appearance to one another ( and to the other 4 SR&RL Flangers ).
#503 is the only car of the 6, to have a curved roof ( the others all had a 'V type' regular boxcar roof ).
#503 is also the only car of the 6, to have larger, six-pane side-windows ( the others, including the 2nd F&M car, had slightly smaller four-pane side-windows ).

Both cars that originally came from the Franklin & Megantic Railroad; did indeed have 'diagonal end siding'.
Very cool looking it is, as well.

With it's curved-roof, six-pane side windows, & central end-doors with panelling and glass; #503 realy is the peach of the bunch !

So why the diagonal end siding ?
Mmmm...

Well...
...could it be that the car-builder had felt it might add some kind of extra torsional-strength to the construction of a car with central end-doors ?
If only to stop the end-door frames, going out of true.
( perhaps the curved roof was added for strength also )

Or did they just reckon it looked cute ?

Having just looked over the plans I built the model from, for the first time in many years...
...I just noticed another 'different feature' of #503; which is clearly visible in the photographs I have of these cars.
#503 has substantialy larger cross-section, end-beams, than the other cars seem to.

The guy who drew the plans for Flanger #503, indicates 5"x6" end-beams ( whoops ! ).
In the photos, the end-beams on #503 look more like 8"x6" to me.
( hard to tell exactly; but most certainly, a lot bigger than the drawn plans indicate )

That car-builder had strength in mind, when putting #503 together, by the looks of things.

Riding the Flangers must have been a pretty rough-journey.
Certainly the kind of forces at work on the Flanger blade must have been quite extreme ( especialy getting to 'stickey bits' ! ).

I have no idea what the actual Flanger mechanism itself, inside the car, looks like; but the exterior photos show the flanging-blade, to be of substantial & reinforced construction.
With heavy-duty tether-chains as well.

The drawings also indicate #503 had, single-skin, un-insulated car sides ( Oh well they did have a pot-belly stove; but I'm not sure the coffee-jug would have stayed put, with the kind of jarring it must have got ! )

The #503 SR&RL Flanger somehow survived the break-up of the SR&RL around 1935/36.

She is now on display at 'Sandy River Park', in Phillips, Maine.

Cheers

Si.

Go on folks...
...get yourselves over to Maine & pay her a visit...
...she'd love to see you !!!

Just don't go in the winter !...
..tis bit chilly.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 5th, 2012 12:41 am
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Hi guys

I am interested in other things beside Flangers you know !!!
( just thought I'd say that )

I also like SNOW-PLOUGHS !!!

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Had a quick surf on the ol' inter whatsname...
...& came up with a bit more Flanger stuff !!!

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It seems SR&RL Flanger #503 might not be in 'Sandy River Park' anymore...
...here's a great photo of her, lettered as 'Franklin & Megantic Railroad' #5 ( as she originally was ! ).

SR&RL Flanger #503 - Lettered as F&MRR #5 - Present Day

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Here's a nice and concise ( but good ) potted history; of when and why, the 3 Maine two-footer railroads ( that together became the SR&RL ) were built.

Maine 2 Footers - Potted History - Text

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Here's rather a nice original B&W photo of Loco, Flanger, Combine, & Passenger Car...
...in quite a bit of snow !

SR&RL #6 in January 1908 (right after the SR&RL consolidation); hauling an F&M flanger and at least two cars, out of Strong Station.
The two men are fireman Charles French and engineer Dan Cushman.

SR&RL Loco #6 - Hauls Flanger Train - 1908

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Cheers

Si.

P.S. - It also seems that the date of #503's construction on my drawings ( of 1904 ) may be wrong.
Found 2 other possible construction dates...
...the first being 1901...
...the second even earlier, in 1890 !!!

Who knows ? Who cares ? Who's right ?
I couldn't begin to guess !

I just like a bit of the history & car-building details.

I DON'T PICK NITS !!!

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 Posted: Mon Mar 5th, 2012 01:42 am
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:old dude:  " Oh no !  It's that guy, on about Flangers again ! "

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Here's a nice drawing of what is 'almost certainly' SR&RL Flanger #502.
Originally built for the Sandy River Railroad.

She was about 19' 8" long & 6' 6" wide; with the 'V' profile boxcar style roof, that was on all these cars, except for #503.

The end furthest from the 4-pane side-window; had a centraly fitted door, with a window either side.
The end nearest the 4-pane side-window; had an offset fitted door, with 1 centraly fitted window.
The offset door was fitted at that end of the car, to clear the levers which operated the Flanger blade, from inside.

The photo I have of Flanger #502, shows it without a stove-pipe.
The drawing shows it with one !
Perhaps it fell off !!! ( all the Flangers had stoves, as far as I know ).

Only a side-elevation, I'm afraid, but a very high-res & nicely done drawing.

Line Drawing - Flanger #502

Si.

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 Posted: Mon Mar 5th, 2012 02:10 am
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:Salute:   " YESIR...right away SIR...We'll put a stop to that guy posting Flanger stuff ! "

:mex:   " Oh Yeah ? "

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HELP MY FLANGER'S GOT A TOUCH OF ROT !!!

Anyone who likes those photos, or models, of rotted-out & falling apart old cars...
...is gonna LOVE this !

SR&RL Flanger #505, after being 'in the woods' for probably 70 odd years !
( I thought it was cold in Maine; I'm surprised no ones had her for firewood )

SR&RL Flanger #505 - Rotting in the woods

Yeah...the paints peeled A BIT !
Don't ask me how they knew she was #505.

Anyhow...
...they reckon she's restorable ( good luck ! ).
Here she is; hauled back to the roundhouse, for a lick of new paint ( and everything else by the looks of things ! )

SR&RL Flanger #505 - Hauled back to the roundhouse

Wodurfink Alb's ?   :brill:   Doable ?

Cheers

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 Posted: Mon Mar 5th, 2012 02:49 pm
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Of course it's restorable!!

They will just measure the crumbs that are left and build a new one.

I will wager that there isn't one bit of wood in that thing that doesn't have some significant rot.


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Hi Herb

Sorry, I'm not going to bet with you on that one !
( I like at least a 50/50 chance of a win )

A house of cards it certainly is !
I'm surprised it hadn't fallen apart completely.
( good quality iron, back in those days )

Don't know how they got it back to that roundhouse in 1 piece.
( perhaps the winter ice in Maine held it together )

Cheers

Si.

If it's like the old wooden ships they dig up from the ocean bed...
...you're right Herb, 0.001% crumbs...
...and 99.999% NEW !

When you visit the famous old wooden ships...
...you can usualy buy a piece of 'original' rotten-ship, cast into clear acrylic.
( stops the termites getting out & into your floor-boards ! )



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