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Fellers....

A new thread in the NG section..I am enthusiastic about half inch extra NG...I will post pitchers of my modeling and lately some from the past ..... I have built nothing during my move and re hash of housing...I have moved to the country...no power ...no lights ...well water on a generator...this is my brothers place...near Bangor california...I have lived here before.. two years,...in 1988 or so...

This may seem bad..but  land  is available for the new mo bettah.... fifteen inch gauge railway.... to be rebuilt ...in the fullness of time...I have enough rails for 280 feet of track...

How do I eat an elephant...one bite at a time...a good thought for me..who wants to over organize and plan everything..to stasis..

Inside I want to have a 1/2 "n 18" railway..minimalist...enjoying the process ..instead of trying to make it all in a day...alot like a hobby...












I am fair proud of the rust   on this one..I painted this one for a friend...

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Thats a great looking ore car, quite riveting. 

 The lettering style is similar to some of the informal lettering styles often seen the turn of the century, subtle, but nice. Seems like many modellers believe that everything old was lettered in old English.

Reminds me of the time three fonts from back east walked into a bar in Mogollon.

The bar tender says: Get out, we don't like your type around here.

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Har dee har! I like the hand painted lettering also. Those 3 fonts must have visited the Goat-where everybody knows your game...

OK, Charley has a new thread we shall give him the "what for", etc. Since this is Christmas night and Sunday, I will be on the chat at 9PM central if any of ya'll want to jabber a bit. Hasta la vista...
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Elminer o , W sea , fellers..

It took me awhile to get that one...hahahahahahaha...

Washes of paint is a trick the mil modelers use..it seems to be  a seldom used thing in Model railways..

And..the lettering ...I started to hand paint a long time ago...not so good results till I started using artist acrylic ..and diluting with water to the right viscosity...by trial and err..

Even these letters are somewhot off....from the uptown railways paint shopps...cause a course we ain't uptown...it gets the job done..the font..or size and shape of letters is whot ever I can paint..not mention...Aaaaah inexpensive...and fast...

I like them..the thing is to realize that old Joe..with a old paint brush..and old paint...might have done just that to identify wagons.

Because some roll better..and some don't roll a tall..this is  plus under the bin on the grade...


These are fotos of horse cars built by a builder in the US for export...very nice light railway bits..












Neat huh....

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WC Duane , fellers...

The chat sounds interesting...whats a fellow gotta do..I am PDT which is maybe two hour lags of Tejas...?...

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fellers...

The speeder avatar is PE..not SSW...but the paint could be....

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Hi Charley,

Your tipper looks great.
glad to see that there is one more building in that scale on 16.5mm gauge. :wave:

My scale tends more to 1:22,5 with a 40cm prototype gauge, but border between Gn15, Hn18 ... are not really existing I think :)

Juergen

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Juergen , fellers..

I Mis lead you..It is 3/4 inch gauge...using 1/2 inch scale..accurate 18"...gauge...

This is "H" scale..by the lourdes of NMRA....

I call it 1/2 ..."..scale...

Aren't you the guy with the oh so cool sea front...?...an artiste..?...if so...1/2 " scale..?....40 cm { 400 mm}...is a neat one...is this whot you are ..or intend to build in..?...I am very excited about it...as One modeling scale is thought to be beneficial...really.. all the scales are grand and one..I need keep it to one..and of course...the 1: 1..15"....Aaaaarghe..Moo hahahahahahha

I figgered out whot 18" gauge is...463 mil or somat ..moo hahhahaha neat...


Some wagon pitchers loaded yesterday...monorail..?..








And ,,...My brothers Oliver OC-3 ..on fire wood detail..









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Hi Charley,

Artist? No, must be someone else you have in mind. Pictures of my things you can find, a little bit collected, here

I'm building two narrow gauge lines, both situated on the fictional island of Toeffelholm, both in a scale of 1:22.5. 1/2" scale is 1:24, so nearby.
I have a "main line" with 750mm/30" prototype gauge ( 32mm model gauge) and a small industrial line with a more or less fictional prototype gauge of 400mm (ca. 16") modeled with 16.5mm track.
Stuff for an industrial railway with 400mm gauge was first introduced by Decauville but only for hand and horse operation.
I don't like the 15" Heywood things so much, nevertheless I call my things "Gn15".
My recent work is more concentrated on this smaller gauge.

Juergen

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Charlie

I keep going back and looking at those rivets. They look so real that I'm going to ask you to do a step by step of how you did them.


The military model people have it all over us when it comes to realism IMO


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Herb, fellers..

The wagon er self was painted tuscan reddish..I painted the rest black .outsides..tub inner left reddish..

The  black was / is floquil I think...which I like ...for covering and for flattening out

The effect of peeling paint on the rim.....it may be as simple as painting some spots and not others..?..no fancy salt of rubber cement ...?..

The rust is a wash...the wally world acrylic paints are very good pigments..I don't use it as paint..per se..it is a source of pigment for washes  making..

I found some colour such as apricot as I had finally run out of my favorite...."Polly "S" " bugbear fur...some sci fi colour..very nice for  rusting..

I use a spray bottle to "wet" the model..a bit of soap in there.."wet water.."  then the apricot paint is applied to the wet model in dabs where the rust would form..around the rivets in question..the rest of the model is washed ..and wiped with a soft rag..as needed..sometimes the pigment washed on very thick and wiped is a  nice method..leaves streaks under bumpies ..

Really..the thing is ...,...that the pigment lays into the meniscus of the water ..dries there...looks bitchen..

Sometimes the pigment will be shiny upon drying..?..probably a factor if being to rich..or the aire drying evap changes somat,.?..


trial and err..is needed..and sometimes err is the result..I found this method by that precisely...thought I had ruined  a model and came back next morning to pigment laying in very nice...

Hope that helps..

More to follow if needed..




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Charlie

Using the meniscus to concentrate the pigment sounds like the answer--

Thanks!

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Charley,

You wrote that you model on accurate 18" prototype gauge, respectively 3/4" model gauge. So you are going to built your track by yourself? Or is there model track with 19mm gauge on the modelrailway market?

Juergen

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Juergen-

In the US the "pure" 3' narrow gage folks use 19mm, 0r 3/4" gage track--which, years ago was US OO scale standard gage.

Flex track, and switches are available here--or at least were, last time I looked. Of course using these items to represent 18" gage in a larger scale brings with it the too many, too small, ties problem.


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Herb , Juergen , fellers..

I am hand laying everything,..there is 3/4 gauge track available....for a slightly smaller scale..



I have a plan for the rails.. this goes toward the "look" of what I want..I had thought about casting panel tracks in resin...but no progress..given my situation 

..I am thinking about it...and may start any day when I feel like that is what I wanna..do..course there are some issues with  priorities......

As it goes along I will post..


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  Fine lookin stuff!!

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fellers..

I sarw a foto in the piles../ files this eve..i send it along..to be able to say i sent something in...to add to the general malaise..hey ..I done had the measles...

Or..wisdom is knowing when to go to bed...moo hhahahahah






And these ain't even the fotos I was talkin about..?..










This one looks Like Chisos tram HQ ..ain't it..?.

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Did you pick up that single slip at the local model shop?

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Herb , fellers..

It was custom built by some feller..had a bunch of acetylene and a welder..I suppose...on a bet..?..

100 ton press...
















This is a display in the lander..?..county musuem..Eureka Nevada...


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Charley,

does the title of your thread
"Excelsior halfinch n 18"
mean, that you plan to build a model of the Kerry Tramway Excelsior loco?
A very interesting prototype for modeling a 18" and also a 15" gauge railway.

Juergen

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Juergen , fellers..

The "Excelsior" name is whot I have come to , to be the name for anything in any scale..it is just the overarching name for my imagined railway empires..

Lumber , mining, timber, Pig feeding..high speed interurban transit..?..:sad:

It stems from an actual miners ditch of that name..which became a agricultural ditch in later times after hydraulic mining was outlawed..for "slickens" downstream silt from  the operations of water sluicing for gold.

The Kerry is indeed a nice prototype..the lokey is { as Bagnalls are !} nifty...I will make a steam outline engine someday..Bagnall esque or Porterish..?..

I  use totally imaginary things for my railway modeling..I talk as if it is taking the best and leaving the ugly / inefficient / un loved , un modeled..

There are problems in modeling one line at one time ...in that you can only model whot was ..how limiting is that..?..So the cubit gauge marches on..folly..and frivolity...it sure makes me happy ...

To the naysayers..dis agree ers for the sake of dis agree ing..do whot you want..smile .be happy..build a model..that is where the flange meets the rail...

Charley


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[img]">fellers...


Took a little drive about this week..this shot is a slusher motor...or two...


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Charley-

Seems like the slusher motor got tangled up in, and absorbed by the belly button lint.


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Herb , fellers..

Yup..I sawr it come out "NOT"..but thought it might have..etc..

I will re send..not now tho'..I took eighty fotos...most of interesting iron..every time I think Of WC and Elmin thinking how cool they would think of this iron..and mines..stuff...try a couple now..







Honourary Gaz mechanical





Wood stove on wheels ..? 






Some of the slush ers..



Pans shewn ..sorta...I don't know whot the mineros call em...alot like a fresno scraper pan..?..






And my girlfriends place..guys are crashing aeroplanes to get in there..?.I think It was H . Hughs...moo hahahahah



Hot showers... hot coffee...hot conversation..no obligation...moo hahhaahahah





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More pitchers I hope..

An early drum..galvey..?..











This is a cool car...A. Kopple..nice riveting..?.






This is for us "very " light railway types...the hotel Goldfield in background was used in the "vanishing point " movie....and some others..?.





Fairly light journals ..















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Neat collection of "Junque" Charley---

Most of it would be worth a shot of both sides, for modeling purposes.


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fellers..., Herb..

Nothing of note happened..One wag suggested a railway line from under the floor { storage } out to the world of uses..I think it is a grand idea...15' ..might be extended to 17' to have a loading area...wood railed..I have some wheelies.."Orchard car " once common in Silicon valley...now it is 'lectric roads...:old dude:

As this develops , fotos as I cannot hep it..:dope:




Nice truck ..seen at Chloride Arizona...rather a heavier load capy...




I thought this was an Arrastra..but it seems a horse whim..foto taken from rolling truck..so not so clear..it sits right in front of the offices..




Drawings by the Frog...Brian Clarke..







Inspirational stuff....as intended..



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Charley-very far out stuff. Just the kind of junque I love. And the old airplane, I modeled something similar in 1:48 years ago...maybe I will consider the same in 1:35/1:32 if I can find the room. Thanks for the photos..

Woodie

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I am here and have a bit of time . some pitchers   to stir the pot...[img]">

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Hi Charley

I like your pictures dude.
I think your photography is great.

My Grandmothers place, when I was a kid, backed on to a 15" gauge railway in Kent UK ; Called the RH&DR ( Romney Hythe & Dymchurch Railway ).
They run replicas of 1:1 locos ( just smaller ), like 4-6-0's and stuff, on 15" track.
The 'main-line' is about 12 miles long, and runs through the amazingly flat & beautiful Romney Marshes, on the south coast of England.

They had a lot of industrial lines in this area as well; mostly digging gravel & making concrette blocks.

Anyhow Charley, thought I'd say hello, since I'm new here.
Keep the pictures coming.

Cheers

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Si-I'm sure there are other places to learn about the RH&D RR, but I have a great little book-LITTLE RAILWAYS OF THE WORLD by Fredric Shaw-which has a nice chapter on this line. There are many other little railways in the book, the Silver City and Gilpin Tram are shown also. It's worth finding this book if you love neat little lines.
Charley-time to get back to work!

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Love the pics, Neveda definitely has a great collection of ghost towns and mines. Then there is Las Vegas....

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Hi Woodie

Thanks for the rec. on the book.
I do love the Gilpin.
Something 'small' like this could be just right for me in 3/8".
I have a drawing here of the 'tiny' caboose made by C&S shops; after the old one became carbon !
I'm thinking this could be my first 3/8" car.

Cheers

Si.

P.S
Charley, real nice work on the painting of those tippers.
If my painting was that good, I'd be celebrating !
Gotta work on my painting a bit this year.
Your right, the military guys have a few good tricks !

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Si , feller.s.

Thanks for the kind words..Vegas is another thing..course they do have Egyptian temples..palaces..the Eiffel tower ..All done in foam.Moo hahahahahaha

Even some mining ish stuff..in foam..there was / is a porter..and a shay..on display near Hoover dam...or boulder if you are a democrat..moo hahahahah

they are gone...adn will probably emerge re built..there is a Nevada rly musuem there..and they will probably have the stuff..

A fellow out in Fallon has alot of old iron..three or so lokeys..all diminutive steamers..and an ore car off the Lewis and battle mountain NG..which ran off the Nevada central..

As i roll around i like to stop and take pitchers.and will share any good stuff..as I see's it...

Thanks..and carry on...

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Hi Charley

Keep them wheels a rollin'
&
That camera a ready...

Cheers

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Those locos that were at Hoover Dam were some real historical pieces, shame they have been moved. Many years ago, we were in Vegas and I went looking for "Last Frontier Casino" where they were supposed to be but several folks told me that the place was long gone and the locos were cut up. We rented a car and drove off to see the dam...along the way, I saw them up on a hill alongside the highway, right across from the Hoover Dam museum. There was a 3 foot Shay (Pioche Pacific), a little 2-6-0 (also PP), and down at the museum was a tiny Porter 0-4-0t and some tiny 2 axle flat cars & mine cars. I have old photos of the stuff buried in a box somewhere, maybe I will dig them out and send them here someday. BTW-the Hoover Dam tour was really cool!

Woodie

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Great pics Charley. Nice touch with the sign in the background. Lots of inspiration in them.
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Sirs , fellers...

More fotos,...for the eyes...for the inspiration...













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Hi Charley

Thanks for the photographs.
Great as usual !

Nice close-up, on the spoked wheels & journals.

In the last photo, it looks like there are a couple of white signs behind the mine-cars & stuff.
What, if anything, do they say ?
How come all this equipment is up on blocks in this yard space ?

In the second photo, I see again the building in the background, from 'Vanishing Point'.
How come this stuff is out on the main-street there.
And that 8x4 ply-sheet in front of it looks like another sign.

What does it say on the other side ?

Cheers

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Si ,fellers..

There is a fellers there who sort of collects this stuff...it is  a musuem of sorts..some for sale..some for probably future in some mine project..gold being priced as it is..gold areas  are BOOMING....:old dude:

The other side of the board was blank methinks...Goldfield is quite the "rural" area...things just sit there alot...for along time..with little or no rust forming..very dry..the operative term...

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The one below is a drill rod as link...this stuff was found in Bakler city oregon..some time ago..I have several thumb drives...this from one of them...






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Oh my...feller.s..I found a treasure trove of old pitchers ..this is shortly after my stroke and loss of desire to build ought...a bunch of fotos of 1/2 " scale n 18"...herewith...

A chassii made from a brit 9 mil ? side frame...



"O" scale wheelies onto K n S axles..holed on drill press...very ncice for 1/2 n18"..scale ...spot on...in all regards...very nice..and a  bogie made form a std gauge "O" scale truck...



I always thought one could just bend round a channel..whul..it worked..cast journals from the sixteen mil set..other side of pond...




This leedle car is one of my all time favs...


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Fellers..

Bound to be more..:mex:







A trial deptford meat depot "shipping truck" chassii




Re wheeling "Valhalla "...note panel track..


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This is fun...












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Yet more..?..








This lokey was foto'd in Montrose Colourado...














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The next zip drive is about 2008...here with are fotos of the Eureka mill rly Porter as it sits in Chester cal after it's exhumation from Butte reservoir




























So there..I think the earlier zip drive is more fu n..but hey..:sad:


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fellers..

I re built a Foothills model works Porter at some point..these fotos show..

[img]">These  first underside views  are  to show wipers as installed for track {   :bang:  } powa...


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Added six wheels pick up..






















Tuned er up a bit and painted er..

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fellers...

I have built two models for the District attorneys  office for murder trails..

This is whur a fellow "Crashed " his pick up off the mountain near reno..killing wife..Uum wife died in the 'orrible crash..he is serving life..w/o...

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Hi Charley

Yeah...I wondered about the rust out there.
I figured it must be realy dry, the way things were looking in your photos.
If you left stuff like that outside where I live for 10 years; you'd be looking at a pile of iron-oxide powder !!!

Didn't know there was a chance of a new gold-rush out there.

Charley, you've done some real nice models there dude.
They all look great.
You realy hit the mark with the painting.
( I gotta practice more ! )

See if you can dig up any more 'gold nuggets' from those zip-drives of yours !

Cheers

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Si , fellows..

Indeed , quite dry..iron lives long..

The zip drives are full of fotos..I havn't got into them yet..I think there are several more..but they are newer..the one which is the mostd interesting to me is the older..it seems to be 1999 - 2000- 2001- 2002 and a bit of 2003..a nice time before the crash..



This is / was the effort at 1/2 n 18"..very nice track..and all rusted as the things are battery powa'd...









These all from a  book shop in Virginia city Nevada..I bought copies..one gave Dale Darney proof of horse working as horse stuff was seen between boards in center of tracks..something not proven before...he traded me out of these fotos at some point..

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fellers..

This is the lokey "Mizpah"..named after the hotel in Tonapah Nevada...Mizpah means "welcome..."...in Hebrew..Yiddish..?..


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I will do six fotos in a  posting..there is the whole series..and i intend to post them all...







The frame next to "Valhalla" a fatal flaw   in the axle spacing shews at this point..





This one was a bit down and dirty..a bit more work would ahve made a better entrant in the contest at Salt lake city...in 200?  maybe third..?..

It is now on blocks as hanger queen.I might resurrect it with one of the Phil's narrow gauge gearhead motor.s..and a better job of Louvre'..








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If anybody wonders why I got time to do this..I am out in my truck ..delivered four drops all around LA today..loading for Phoenix in the morning..it is cold in the norther...



This shews the method of one speed either direction...DPDT ctr off switch wired to reverse polarity from batteries..





Serv-o-link chain being spot on for the use....












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These are some odd balls out of order..posted to shew the whole sausage...





















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Hi Charley

More great models dude !

I have to say; I do like this funky industrial stuff myself.
A good modelling friend I haven't seen for years; likes it even more.

I think he drew the Merced Gold Mine Porter years ago as well.

He told me to visit 'The Amberley Chalk-Pits Museum' in South-England to look at these kinds of locos & cars which they have there.
( some compressed-air, also )

So I did !!!

Somewhere I have a load of realy cool photographs of their loco's, cars & track, I took there.
I'll copy them to digital & post them; you might be interested to see them Charley.
( probably take a few days though )

They filmed a 'James Bond Movie' there.
Can't remember the name of it.
But it was the one with Christopher Walken as the bad-guy.
His hide-out was some kind of old-mine...
...and they filmed the loco's & cars at Amberley.

Where did you get your 1:24 figures Charley.
A particular brand ?
Or DIY modded ?
They look great.
I just have Tamiya car-mechanics at the moment.
They're OK...but yours look 1,000,000 times better !

Cheers

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Si , fellers..

Thanks , I have seen the bond ,James bond filme.Today the world has very much shrunk due the internet..Amberly...even Teddy Boston's line in filme..even archival stuff...the Listowel and Belly button..ER Calthorps line..in cineme'..great stuff..

I appreciate the pointing to the prototype stuff .

Your a friend of Stan..?..Schwedler..?..he drew some early drawing / plans...of Porters..

I am going to see them this weekend..lunch with the boys ..saturday...a tradition...

Probably need rent a hall now..moo hahahahahahah

It is very nice for me , to see this blast from the past fotos..I didn't know if they existed or where ...didn't remember talking these ..or this many,.so it is all a gift..

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Oh..the figgers are SLM..I think they are among the best figgers ever...we were buying them depending on the expressions on their faces....grumpy guys got left behind...etc..hahahaha

Charley

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Does SLM stand for something ?
Like a full name ?
I don't know this acronym.

Yeah...the internet has realy helped with research.
When I started US narrow gauge; I struggled to find info in the UK.

Even UK info, was hard to find.

It's good to be able to talk to people with similar interests.
I knew just a few modellers, in the UK only.

I have a few questions to ask, about wheels & couplers.
I'm sure if I ask them here, there will be quicker progress; from the benifit of members experience.
Tis good !

Cheers

Simon

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I found a file with 50 + fotos of the Wazoo island railway...the good ones shewn...

AND..there are more files within that file of 1:32 nd...


















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I am going to mine this file...then go to the next..one at a time for clarity in my own time...mind..er..


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Hi Charley

Thanks for more great photos !

Looks like you're dusting 'the lint' out of those zip-drives...
&
...STRIKIN' 'THE MOTHER LODE' !!!

( don't want too much 'lint' about...
...can ruin a good paint-job ! )

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Charley, I was just looking at some of your pictures again.
I now see ( I think ) that the ones I was asking about the figures in; look a bigger scale than 1/2".
Maybe SM32, 16mm 2ft ?
Was judging this by the size of the AA batterys on your bench.

You just mentioned 1:32 as well.

Just reading between the lines...
...It seems to me you may have built in a larger-scale...
...& then maybe 1:32...
...and now your current project/scale is 1/2"n18.

Just trying to work out what I'm looking at.

Can you post the size of the scale & track with your photos...
...as you said some of your photos are from quite a long time-span.

Hope that makes sense.

Cheers

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Hi again Charley

Yeah...
...I have swapped around in scales quite a bit.

1:48 1:24 even 1:12 !

I am now looking at 1:32 1:35

Now just returning to an interest in modeling...
...I am trying to work out what scale/prototype combination, will work for me now.

I have a bunch of 1:32 automobile models, so know this size for figures, but not yet for trains !

Cheers

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Si , fellers..

I think each section is one scale or the other...The two lokeys.."Valhalla and Mizpah " are halfinch..the others are 1 : 32...for the most..?..

The SLM figgers are good enough to be known as halfinch scale..the others...the grey frnch guys..the guy with the flag..are 1;32 nd...

Hope that helps..

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Hi Charley

Thanks.

I just saw somewhere else on the forum...
...that I think you were doing 7/8"n2ft (32mm) outside.

The 1/2"n18 (3/4"), is your current project; which will be indoors.

I get it now ( I think ).

Cheers

Si.

Love your work Charley, Whatever scale !
Good spirit.
Small railroads.
Big scales.

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Si , fellers..

Thanks.., this is all fun and inspiration to each other..I stress the " fun"

..I seem to be able to understand alot without knowing it for sure..I put the ideas out with the hope that others will chime in with whot they know..or suppose..between us..we can know alot..

A buddy of mine says this is one method of teaching..supposition and response..?..

More fotos..

And yes..I have been doing SE ..Seven eighths..n 18" for some years..since about 1999...Rich Chiodo and Carlo Spirito suggested it as an alternative to 16 mil scale on 32 mil as two foot gauge ..I had the 32  nil gauge railway..and like extra narrow gauges...a natch...

More fotos..

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I like this!


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Charley-sure is some good looking stuff! I remember seeing your articles in the old Light Iron Digest, they were my favorite parts of the mag. We would always love to see more...

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Hi Charley

Love the little 4-seater excursion-car.
She's the biscuit !!!

Looks like a cool bit of large-scale indoors !

I am trying to draw something for inside at the moment.
Oh I wish everything would go round a 10" radius !

I see the 2ft Gilpin Tram had some 50ft curves.
That's 17" in 1:35 scale.
Not bad !!!

Cheers

Si.

Or a straight switching-layout.
BUT I WANT CURVES !

My new proposed layout space just DOUBLED !
Realy need 2 stations.
& a short run between.
Oh...just TREBLED !

We'll see.
Start small...
...think big.

One day !!!

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Woodie ,Herb , fellers..

Woodie .you are my hero...so there..

I did alot of article stuff in the seeming long dim past..I don't even remember...won some awards..I thought ..Like Mark Twain.{?}...If I can win these..etc etc.etc...

I am coming around to {it's a hobby fer crissake}..and it is..these fotos are a great source of inspiration for ..wul..some for me..and hopefully for others..

I  am plugging in the thumb screw for more at the left off point..I have  some other thumbs un axplored..it is all mis mash..

I will dredge them as I go along..gives me  something to do..in the caban ...I alomst got to go to Morenci today....it is quite  a ways oof from Phoenix..we went to Ajo Az instead...a huge open pit copper mine...visited the musuem walked arou d the Tucson Cornelious  n Gila Bend railway depot..a neat  faux ish spanish stucco sort of town square...built around 1910 by Phelps dodge..?.comp'ny town ...way boon docky...in a makes Nevada look foresty sort of way...

DID NOT TAKE CAMERA...?...won't do that again..














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I just searched Yucatan horse / pushcar  / tramways .

I came to this site and this fellow apparently is way ahead of us in this search..as others before him..

Help reading through this site and following links and figgering out other ways to search this stuff is wanted..

Neat fotos and links at this site..

http://www.tramz.com/mx/yu/yu00.html




This is the second foto I have seen of this line through this arch..I think it is about as cool an inspiration as one will find.







And , Si..I recall you saying something about getting them around curves..the half inch stuff i am doing will go around about a six inch radius..curve...widening  the gauge a bit helps dramatically...



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Shewn is the making of Brother Stanley...this first is comparison of the Bachman porter with the Grandt line Mary Harrison mine engine..she in 1:48..th ..Brother Stanley at 1' to 32' ....






















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Charley,
I absolutely LOVE wazoo engine number 1. It's a tiny green 0-4-0, for me it couldn't get any better. Thanks for great pics.

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David , fellers

The Wazoo Island railway was the bailywick of Mr. Beel Wilson...the late...sadly.

He was a great modeler..really quite fastidious..the  layouts  I knew were all quite nice..from 0n30" ..{ before it was cool} to the half inch ..through the 1:32 nd version{S?}..I don't recall..

great stuff right down to the laggin on then pipes and etc...

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Made a trip around Phoenix Arizona on my bicycle today..

Fotos shew the current museum in Phoenix ..the outside display..the place is closed...

Note bicycle in mining bucket..scoop thingie..






























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Hi Charley

I'm envious...

...you get on yer bike; and see s£%t like that...

...I get on mine, and get a FLAT !!!

What's your next job on the bench ?

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OK nitpickers, here you are! A C Co #2, Arizona Copper Co (Coronado RR) was originally built as an 0-4-2T for the Coronado RR (20" gauge) CN 507, built 7/1882 by H K Porter. This loco was abandonded along with 2 others (#5 & #7) high on a hillside near the Coronado Mine. The 3 "lost lokies" were brought down some years ago and are all residing at various museums in AZ. Coronado RR #8 "Copperhead" is still at "home" in Clifton, AZ near the Greenlee Co. Historical Society museum (the old Clifton station)where the Coronado RR ran.
Aren't you glad that you asked???

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Si , feller.s.

My next job is to BUILD the bench..moo hahahahahahahahah then  I can build the Excelsior writ again...

BUT..I have made big progress...and i itch ..to build some stuff..

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Raining here in Northern cal...steady all night and so far..

Foto found on flash drive...these are the little passenjare wagon..some different shots of frame and fini...for effect..

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And we twiddle the exhaust to make it reverse?


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Charley-that's some dee-light-ful stuff!! I just love those little pokey lokies and cars. Herbert may have been thinking about how the Englishmen run their large scale locos, a reverse lever or some such to operate the battery powered engine whilst they imbibe in some single malt or stout ale. Eh whot??

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Sirs ,

The  standard stack switch assembly..one each etc..for'ard is down..the most used and easiest .make er go..mash er down..gentle there rufus..

I enjoy the little trains too...A fellow don't need much monies to make this stuff.a few rails..and  some plastic  or styrofoamfor buildingsor wood etc..a great thing..

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Eh .. whot !!

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Wall, I'll be dipped in rat s%^&! Golly gee, pardner.

Hasta la Vista

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Si

Perhaps you would prefer--

"Luv a bloody duck, guv"

Or perhaps a Black country favorite--

"T babbies cacked isself"


You see , we are quite multinational with useless little sayings that we try to work into the conversation when ever we think we can get away with it.

Two countries, separated by a common language.

But we leave Aussiespeak to our resident expert, Donald, who can pronounce Australian place names that rival only Welsh localities.


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This is for Don-"the dingo ate yer baby!"...

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Some fotos...thought inspirational ,  etc..









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Suffer through with me here..these roadside attractions in Shoshone , Nevadar ...Sho show nee.... thar ...













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Mining for mo fotos ..




These pitchers is from Brooks Oregon..A musuem of railway nature.logging and oregon Electric stuff too.A neat place which gets a visit from time to time.














I think this last is the "blue Ox"  A cletrac  , loggers special but I could be wrong..?

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Corris Uchaf ...





























Probably spelt Uchaf wrong but I don't spell Welch so well..this is inside a slate mine tunnel , very neat local tour givin by Dorris of Corris tell her I love her. We went along the Rat goed tramway too and into the mines there.

 I think most of the pitchers are filme..

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These are from a file of "Saved " fotos for future reference and motivation.these are the gaz rigs..not even all more laterthen aire ..then steam..I took fotos of the merced gold mining Porter years ago in filme there are here too..the Mary Harrison mine engine.properly known..alas also later.













These are all catolog pages   etc..

Had to pull one out of this stack Charlie--it had copyright Hagley Museum printed right across it--missed it the first time around. SOB's get pix donated to them, then slap a copyright on the pix, without credit to whoever took the shot. Friend of mines Dad took a gazilion shots around the Yorklyn DE area, starting around the turn of the 20th century. Was a very avid photographer, and had the money to buy all the top of the line camera gear- large format- panoramic---he had it all. Son donated it all to hagley (they don't rate capitation) also all the negatives.
hagley sold all the camera gear, and when one of the many photos appears it is credited to them. Low life weasels.

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Above foto is John Robinson , restorer of many things.this Mac Farland Eggars lokey as well.








In Death valley..the "Baby gauge" train.Plymouth repowered ala chev.?




That is all for today gents.I am tired and sleepy..

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Thanks Charley.

Nice pics.
Or as we Brits say :-

" Jolly good show WHAT ! "

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Charry-

Interesting Cletrac-- I thought that they all had a steering wheel, with braked differential steering. That one looks to have individual drives with steering clutches, al-la Cat (and most all tracked machines)

Thanks for all the neat --and inspiring--stuff!


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Gee Charley, I wish you would post some photos sometime.

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WC fellers..

Yar , I have trouble figgering it out...I'll try some more...the rest of the IC ..then some others if I have time and inclinations...

I am gonna get me one of them inclinations..a blood trans or sompin..



Now , How can every railway NOT have a paddlewheeler....?..this along the Willamette in oregon..this one of my favorite all time pitchers..




This lokey is in Lead South Dakota...the winsom chick is my mother.several years ago.









This Vulcan is one I long wanted to model......back in the days when i could not.Note the rounded hood.. a feature of many of the Excelsior lokeys..







Probably pilfered from one of the Feldbahn series...

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I am inclined...


A neat scene I long wanted to model...
















Neat scary shore to ship lumber slings and etc...there is El Minero's tram bridge...ain't it..?

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We are on to Steamers.












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These are shots of the Mary Harrison mine engine at Coulterville cal in about 1985 as it was then  .    I  have not seen it since...



She is two footwith one example of the neat ore cars Grandt line..{ Cliff}.made a model of this engine and  cars available in 1/4 inch scale..





























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First a couple I missed...this one related to the other landing shots

And next.. this is Kiso forest railway.



Then aire lokeys...



Yours truly on an Eimco 401 .in Colfax Cal...Me and Timmsey Stolle were on  the mother lode lokey tour..




This one is in Forest hill cal...A porter aire lokey..local to the area..featured in the gazette once..rare , are  fotos of er in service...






Eimco 401  {?} at Empire mine musuem ..grass valley cal...







This caption says Haggerty ferris mine.?..Montana..?.

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Charley,
I always thought that the Arizona Copper 20in porters were the smallest built, but I can now see I was very wrong, that #159 Porter is to die for! Thanks for the photos.

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I should note that the Imperial Copper Co (Silverbell Mining Co.) in AZ had 2 18" gauge Porter 0-4-0t's. I haven't seen photos of them but the C/N #'s are 4209 & 4210, built 10/08. If anyone has photos of them, please, PLEASE post a link or something! Could be shown in the Porter books owned by the NMRA. Food for thought addicts.

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David , WC , fellers..

I think Stan  Schwedler has some plans or fotos of some Porter { Steam powered}....of quite small stature...Alot of these "smallest'..are sort of "we might build one if you'd like".. variety....

Which was smallest..which was actually built...might be something we never know...these drawings are very neat..

Another point..is...these  smallest...are the same length from drivers to end beam both ends....something that us modelers have found as necessary for nice curving abilities...

The drawing / or foto Stan shewn me last visit was like this..perhaps the firebox was behind the drivers..and the thing becomes rather a deckless lokey.....Firedoor right out to rear of cab...

I do not know this stuff as much as the fotos and drawings I have seen and conversations with Cliff Grandt and Stan Schwedler...we have commonly conjected these ideas....

Now Stan is on line..whether we can get him to speculate publically or not...?.



This foto was from the cover of the California mining journal...in the day when I hadn't even seen a trammer up close...the Ruby mine is up above Goodyears bar  , near Downyville cal...A drift mine...I knew a fellow who worked in there for some time...he had then moved on up to logging...?

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Trammers....


Empire mine musuem..Grass valley cal...this trammer seemed to be a bit homeade or "modified...over the years...






This is a Tim Stolle foto of " the big trammer "at Butte montana.....



Tim labelled this one below as Kellog Idaho....



This one below is the Trammer used at the Empire mine for surface level waste rick removal..I have followed the grade of this line.it was 30"  gauge. The building behind still exists...









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more trammers...




Foto says Talc trammer w train...?








Tram stuff at Virginia city Nevada { below}







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Wagons , carraiges...rock cars ...etc....




Classic three link coupling...



Rock cars at Empire mine musuem..













 More Kiso esque railway...







Oil well tram ...above 

Sutro tunnel investor ..?..car..below








Kiso forest turntable

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These fotos of "Mizpah"...on Beel Wilsons  layout .















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Results of searching for Heniquin tramways on you toob

Este video nos muestra un panorama que no muchos conocen acerca de la producción del henequén en Mérida, Yucatán, México.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOPyzUyY4Cs

This is a nice one of a horse car.short..but worth watching.

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Some more fotos...?













Skip at Mojave cal...used on LA aqueduct .....

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Hi Charley

Hope you're doing OK...
...wheels rollin' & camera clickin' !

You put up a drawing by Rowland Emett a while back...
...was it by Emett ?
...or am I mistaken ?

I was looking to get a book with some of Rowland Emett's drawings in.
The only thing I could find was called 'The Early Morning Milk Train'.
Published around 1977.

You mentioned something about a series of books, I think.
Was that Rowland Emett or someone else.

Sorry Charley...
..pretty cryptic stuff !
Hope you get what I mean.

Cheers

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Did you ever see Bruce Bate's drawings...
...'The Birdwater & Raspberry'...
...some years ago in Garden Railways mag. ?

Like 'em ?

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Si-Far Tottering & Oyster Creek by Rowland Emett...is that what you're thinking about?

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Si  , WC feller.s.

I think the drawings I put up were from "The Frog"..Brian Clarke Saltfrod models..he did quite a  series of little booklets on things Narrow and obscure..to the point of making some or alot of it up..very neat stuff...

The 15 inch gauge to Chasewater or something..very clever..I really enjoy them..I have quite a set...


I been schlepping around Beatty Nevada the past couple of days..between loads...I am considering moving to Beautiful Oasis valley nevada...time will tell...


I found this thing..I think it is a pump..externally driven...belt wheels to gears to recip motion...?..




















AND...an ore car with  a lifting set up made inside..rings for lifting..ALA blondin..'cept over here probably called something less glam...










AND ..Beatty is rather close to the Bomb range...this in a hotel lobby...






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Charley

That first item is called a "pump jack" and you're correct, it converts the rotary motion of a motor or engine into reciprocating action needed for a piston pump down in a well.

Smaller ones (70-80%) were used on farms where windmills were impractical, to pump domestic water--usually driven with one cylinder gasoline engines.
Farmer would "eyeball" the amount of gas that it would take to fill the water storage tank, and put an appropriate amount of fuel into the engine tank to run the pump long enough. No waste of gas or water.




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Herb-what's the topic? Oh yes...This n' that n' chicken fat. Back to my trains...

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Herb , fellers..

Thanks for the info.I thought of the Tejas contingent when I sawr the cast in logo...a neat machine to be sure.

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Proper Texas iron.
Good stuff !!!

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I looked on "de net" and Alamo Iron Works is still in business. I don't think they make that old pump any more, their catalog showed high tech devices that could be used on the Starship Enterprise or maybe in Spock's bathroom. Such is life...

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fellers...

I figgered it was time to stir some stuff...This is all 0n30"..the Glyn valley 4 Tonne granite wagon is some Brit kit..the Glyn valley carriage...some plastic kit from the fair isle as well..




The bigger one is A Binnie engineering kit to 16 mil scale...the smaller is the metal one shewn previous...foto..I enjoy this sort of dupes in different scales...





These are some 1/4 inch scale figgers custom painted for my Patrone'...in that time...





Then these next are the Glynn valley tram carriage , built for the same fellow..







These both on a layout I built to 0n2'..thence when Bachman came out with the 30" ..I laid a third rail...




Not really a very big or complicated layout...but neat enough..shewn at "O" scale west several years running...

It got a award one year for trackwork in spite of it being displayed and run on a table I rented..to have a place to sit..

.I had one of those sound and power power packs with the speaker placed under the layout..several fellows asked how I had gotten sound into the bachs Porter...












Then ..a gnomy tramcar..powered with a  hustler chassis I think..before the time of the Trolley car chassis by Bachs man...









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Hi Charley

Looks like a cool little layout.
Even I might have room for one like that.

Just converted a pair of Binnie Engineering arch-bars to 45mm gauge.
New wooden bolsters + wheelies on new 'drill-bit' axles !
Nice for 1/2" WSLCo cars ( sort of ).

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Si , fellers..

Wul , the Bachmans side rod dizzle will go around a 4 or 5 inch radii curve..quite happily...

Build a card body on there ..and you got a 1:35th n 2 critter...how easy and cool is that...very ..says I...

AND..it can curve around the head of a pin...with all them angels the philosopher types say are dancing thereon..moohhaahahahah take a foto of that and smoke it in your pipe,..or how ever that goes...

Some cliche' invented in Tejas by some feller wearing a  coonskin hat...

by winters only I trust..?...

AND FUTHERMORE...sorry for shouting..I am all excited...I got the CD's I was talking about..I am going to put em' in and fire em up to see if there is anything worth shewing on them...

Chols

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Hi Charley

Any luck with those CD's ?

Cheers

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Si , feller.s.

I had em in the computer today..I think I had the pitcher from one in the wrong program for re sizing..

One has some new fotos of that Halfinch diorama thing..same subject matter really..different poses...I 'll see about altering them as downloads...that should make them shippable ..size..d...

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A study of weathering..to put a fine point on it..whilst  it is rather NOT ..narrow gauge..it is weathered..seen yesterday at Chehlis Washington..

A neat set of trucks for the student of ODD....different...and or colourful...













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Cute as a bug..is whot i say...

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I cain't hep it...stop me before ...etc..


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Another view worth seeing..


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Charley-why don't you ever post any photos?

Noobs???

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WC , fellers..

I know ..I know..I should build a model..post a pitcher or sothin..these horse cars..mule trains,.bags and boxes on flat cars w spookied wheelies..tram cars..how cool..very inspirational..

I visited the Portland Zoo today..they gots a railway..rode said..aforementioned..

then the Chinese garden there in town..very ncie..I am thinking..chinese garden with railway..?..manhow cool would that be..

The manhow railway...?..[img]">

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Friend says the little red lokey on the Zoo railway was / is a baldwin ..note frames..twas made to look like A GM SW type in some re build...neat huh...

Although I 'd rather see it as the Baldwin type..


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Well, I don't know about all that but those blue open tourist cars are very cool. I wish you had a "broadside" view of them. Looks like a nice brass & solder project.

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Woodie , fellers..

I suspect that models are often "better" , than the real deal...monies and actual time coming into play with the real world..

Is Richard "woodie " Jackson finding anymore of his famous B n W fotos of the muggyown line,.?..

The hardest part of these sorts...of "Breezer" cars...is the seats...maybe casting a seat end of note would finish them off with panache'...

Chols

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Charley-it is very easy to B&W photos with my trusty Photoshop. I have just become enamoured (smitten?) with the old timey look. I could B&W all my photos here but then I woulod be spending 10 hours a day for years and not run my trains. That ain't gonna happen!

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Woodie , fellers..

Oooooh kay...I am needing entertained..my tools are not here with me..my shop is dismantled..woe is me...

I am motivated to get er togedda though....and I will ,  then I will send some pitchers..pay you back...;)

Charley shopless in ..rolling along...

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fellers..

I stopped and visited the Tonapah mining museum...this on my way of moving sorta down thata ways...

I took  a buncha fotos..it is quite a nice museum..alot inside as well..

A random sample  of shoots..










This is a Joshua Hendy stamp mill ....they of west coast nirvana of stamping and mine machineries...SF cal..and quite the Gold  rush phenom...




A three way stub...without outside rails..




AND ..the very coolest of little mine hoists...


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This is the actual fire department from Manhattan Nevadar or something..

This museum seems to have raked in alot of stuff from the surrounding several hundreds of miles..and good for them..the stuff is saved..



This fan is a headframe display...the next shot is the winch side of this same headframe..







This is the actual weigh house from Mina Nevadar on the Sp line..nee Carson  n Colourado ..etc..Mina was where the SP  er ...Uuum Tonapah railroad backed up to when making the junction from the C n C to the Tonapah in the boom..same old story of a land owner trying to gouge the railroad...so they built the town in another section..


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Provence of rail car unknown...




Very cool portable winch , slightly later than the one lunger shewn earlier..


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Hi Charley

Looks like a cool place to visit.
Nice pics.

Cheers

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Great pix Charley!! :moose::moose::moose::moose:

The railcar (I believe) is a Nash--did one of those engines for the East Broad Top's M3.

And BTW- Are you sure that that stub switch is a three way, missing it's outside rails? Looks to me like nothing more than a derail, with a choice of which side of the ROW the junk piles up on.



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Herb , fellers...

The fellows I was with , helping me move { again}..I wore them out..were perplexed by the thing..i walked up and saw it for whot it was right off..I said..see ..lookie the rivet holes for the two outer diverging rails..Oh..

Huh..how about that..

A TWSMTS...:apl:

Three way stub mine track switch...for you euphamismers..

Euphamisery..?...euthanasiamisimers..?...

my eyes is waterin...hahahahahahah

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Charley-I read about a 3 way stub in an old Playboy magazine...when I wuz a young un'..

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3 way...

...good for micros !

A 1 switch inglenoook...

Hope the move went OK Charley.

Cheers

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Si , fellers...

The move is done...the carnage continues..alot of stuff..I trip over it..move one thing..another falls over..it is the nature of Murphy...

It is a matter of time to get things situated..

I did get a workshop of sorts set up..actually made wheelsets for a seven eighths wagon...finished the thing up and sent it off

This for  the SE swop thing I has signed up for..that is a good sign..I enjoyed building a bit..forgot the present  ...a good sign when modeling..

I am probably going off to work thursday . A vacation from construction..?..

I was at the Los Angeles live steamers last weekend..had a grand time..


This is one of those 3 3/4 inch scale two footers..burning very smokey coal.



I was fortunate to be able to run my pals OS engines coal fired mogul .

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Looks like a lot of fun! Thanks for posting those.

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Hi Charley, meeza back !!

I am on my first day of our vacation and stumbled on this thread. Great photos !!

What happen to Wazoo, did you sell it ?

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Henrik ,

Thanks , the Wazoo has gone to Dave Gast. He knew Beel also . Dave is a collector / restorer of railroad stuff and old cars..quite the collector and quite a modeller as well..He has garden railway seven eighths scale..

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I visited the Portland Oregon Zoo and railway yesterday..time for fotos and updating..









30" gauge ..very nice ride

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AND...Woody , this time..I was all ready to get side views of the coaches..but they had two pared side by side..one right next to the tracks..foiled again..I thought about sneaking over the fence by the Elephants..some consider this poor form...

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fellers...Woodrow , Elmernero..

I wanted to keep my hand in over here..I posted these figger fotos over on the SE list..and dupe here..but..I am doing a bit..and always am proud of doing something productive...

Here with ..fotos of SE scale figgers painted of late..


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Charley,

Did you make those guys yourself? If so, thats amazing. Even if all you did is paint them, you've done an exceptionally nice job.

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Mike , fellers.

I assembled the fellow on the left...Steinbeck...{on right }..I really only  just painted both...

Thank you..I appreciate your saying so..I think the dry brushing  makes them look alot better..it is sort of cheating..instead of making the paint perfect..the dry brush kinda blends them all together they look good..... it is whot it is..I like the effect...

Gives them a :w:lived in look...

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I mentioned taking "Valhalla" out of the deesplay case..wul..here he is..nothing really new..except cab roove put back on and raised..

This is preperatory to actually doing something..I hope to ..I'm gonna..I hate to say that..but it is whot it is..

Fotos of him on the counter..no layout..layout sch[img]">emed upon..

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Dem figs. is tops Charley.

Those planks on the wagon top are nicely bowed ( heavy-load ).

V. runnin' on a micro-railway sounds the ticket to me !

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Man, Charley I just love what you are doing here with this "Big" little railroad.

Very nice stuff!
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Fellers..Mike , Si...

Thanks..I am hoping to get to doing some modeling stuff..just talking about Woodrows railway is  fun..but no model building fun..for me.I need to just do it..get on with it..no over engineering to stasis..no sir..

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I just started going through this thread from the beginning, got as far as page 10 tonight. I'll have to finish it later.

Great pics, lots of interesting stuff. I love all your "extra narrow gauge" models and prototype pics! I'm planning to put in a couple short mining trams on my 1/24th scale layout, and eventually want to build some locos to display on them. I especially want to do a Porter air loco. If I can manage it, I'd like to rig it to run back and forth on the little bit of track between the mine and mill. If not, it'll at least look good sitting in front of the mine.

I also like all your photos of old stuff from Nevada. I spend my vacation every summer camping in Nevada and the Mojave, exploring ghost towns and mines, and trying to photographically document as many as I can before they're gone for good. I also have a lot of photos of old vehicles, tractors, and mining equipment.

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Ghost_Towns_and_Mines.html

http://www.raydunakin.com/Site/Vintage_Machinery.html

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Well, I finished going through the rest of the thread this evening. Great stuff, very enjoyable!

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I have watched Charley's work from afar, he's a great inspiration to me.
Hey Charley, you had several articles in the Light Iron Digest...did you get your subscriptions filled? That's what I got paid-a year for a piece. Never got the account settled before it left the Earth.

Post more photos please, we need more.
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Ray , Woodrow ... fellers

Wul ..ah shucks..I don't think I ever made much in the way of pay for content provided...but the fame baby..the chicks..the monies..the big fine cars...yesir..

I have not had time to go to your Mojave -ish fotos Ray..thanks for the link...there is alot of neat stuff out there..


Ahem..I am attending the National NG convention..layout tours...very nice stuff up here in the north west...saw Paul Scoles..railway...over impressed ..it is quite good.Much better ..pitchers do not do er justice..

Very much motivated to build...I still labour to make a place to live...feeling that working on mod cons is probably preceding the workbench..BUT...I am motivated and will build / shew...as it happens..

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GO Charley! GO!

We await developments----


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Herbie , Woodrowe , fellers..

Convention 2012 is over..Elvis has left the building...etc...

I was fortunate enough to make a plaque...3 rd in freight car category...I was hoping for a plaque...braced for..or not built up to..un happy if not...I like to have a plaque to shew for being there...the layout tours were quite good...and as always..the peoples are my friends..renewed and made...

great guns man....







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Wow! Colorado free zone...I'll bet that went over like Lead Zepplin with some convention types! If that's a photo of it, very neat but there ain't any folks standing around. Maybe it's lunch time! Cool stuff, old man!

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Woodie . fellers..

Oh..Uuuum..today I am thinking of 1:35 th n 2'...?..the Sn3' railways ..got me thinking more along the  lines of railways rather than tramways...

The two week waiting period is in effect...BUT...The question is...whot pray is the wheel size of the bachmans wheelies in 1:35 th and 1:32 nd respectively...is that something anybody can say off hand..?..

The reason why..I sawr your buddy Greg Wrights 1:32 nd railway...on tours..very nice and part of the motivations..

Whot is the diameters of those wheels in the various scale.s..?..

Thanks...

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Is that the 'Blue Salvage Co' ? ( or something like that ).

Couldn't deal with all those screaming chicks & riot-cops.
I don't know how best-selling authors deal with it.

Hey Charley...
...would you sign my C&S baseball cap ?
I wouldn't sell it 5mins later on eBay...Honest.

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Si ,

Yes ..huh...and yes yes...

Nice time had by all...

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Woodrow..fellers..

So ehre is some progress on the 1 : 35 th realm..a figger ,.



He is de nazi-fide/  runes gone..etc..etc..I made a shovel for him..when the finish fotos come out...the foto here is to shew the Aileens super tacky glue as bondo in shoulder ...





A shot of thihs fellow next to the Bachs Lokey chassis for relative size comps..



This one of the plie of scale items the plastic modeller guy sent me for the cost of shipping..the mil modeller guys have tons of this stuff..for the asking ...?..It is sorta seconds..but it was very "priced right "

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Woodrow , fellers..

I "made " a ruler for this scale..9 mil per foot ..fair close...do I get 8.26 mil per foot..?..I did nine..cause I remember the nine mil tramway..anybody remember that one..a fav of mine in the old days..?
So I put dykem blue on the ruler....{ .a blue sharpy thank you..}....then used a pencil to highlight the 9 mil increments..viola...AND..I have a 1:35 th ruler coming in the mail..cost six bucks..delivered..googler ..you get yer choices ...there are several types available..I have one here , now..for the dollar or whatever this one cost at one of the train shews from the tool man..


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Charley-that's a great kitbash of a ruler. I appreciate stuff like that.

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Woodrow , fellers...

Of necessity..the best momma..of..etc...

The fellow is got his shovel in hand..standing with shovel..ready for duty sir..just in cast sompin needs dug around here..

Also made the foam base for diorama -ish  something to dink around

I also found some 3/8ths granularated foam..perfec for buildings of our genre..stucco..stone ..bricks..carved in..great stuff.

The lokey is a bit of something I didn't feel like getting involved in seeing as I have one already..{ "Art" is 3/8ths scale...Ssssshhhhhhh ..}   I am just gonna get a proper driver for em'....

.I am gonna search in a minute.. /...googler for wheels ..suitable for wagons..{ cars to you Herbert.}..

I just took a couple pitchers of the re sized lokey "Art"" driver is just a big happy fellow till we get a replacement...

The barrels were in the plane crash box of bits...the shovel which almost became  a broom.is some Nazi hat convertulated over..hutten  into shovels..




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Chas-

Had to do a slight edit back on page ten--sorry

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Herbie , fellers..

Don't be sorry...it is too bad that some fair use isn't done..hate to share some obscure history ....

I have typed out two full rants and deleted them.......


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You have to be careful in my game...
...small errors can, & DO, add up !

( I think you'll be fine though Charley )

Cheers

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If Woodie was this 'far-out'...
...by the time you got to the end of the Mogollon 'main-line'...
...it could be...Erm...
...about 4"s longer !

If the Mogollon was 'computer-controlled' instead of 'Woodie-Controlled'...
...This would mean CERTAIN disaster...
...overshootin' the TT...
...& into the 'concrete-canyon'.

Slim-Pickins riding 'the bomb' at the end of 'Dr. Strangelove' comes to mind.

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Si , Woodrow , fellers..

Wul..near a quatta mil per revolution..I suspect the moon rocks would have never gotten to their intended..and she woulda been un happy..and when she is un happy..the whole thing  comes to a stop..hopefully several millimetres before the cont-crete canon..it is cold in there..too..

And we just cannot have that ..no sir..

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Yeah...
...good job on the 'moon rocks' back in the 60s'.

It takes a real modern screw-up for NASA to 'miss' these days; on the basis of 'metric to imperial' conversion.

Oh well...only a few billion dollars down the drain !

Cheers

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Lookin' good Charley.
Keep up the good work.
I might even have time to make my first 1:35/32ish.n2 car this winter as well.

Boo Yah !!!

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Si , fellers..

I just un wrapped my coolish 1:35th scale ruler.."Fassett studios." ....a soft bendy solid one..really quite nice..Googler ...

....The fellow even included a scale 7' of ruler..as well as e mailing and apologising for slight.."SLIGHT"..delay in shipping..as in a  day or two..idness practice points..and about $6 shipping incl'd..in price quoted..etc..

I am away from the palace..diorama changes considered..I had made a thing using two inch foam...seems like 20" long by 20" wide.....15" land and 5" frontage of "water"..

I am considering making it longer and thinner..this really is not alot of room for any much in way of trackages..the squarefoot module guys face this..

And..it might need to be 1/2 inch scale..due the nature of the effort..not a railroad..a bit of modelling for the use of the disciplines..

time will tell we shall see...life interferes...this week..

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Si-don't laugh, the concrete canyon fall from the TT happened. Little #2 Rudy was on the TT one day and the "boss" walked away to do some doofus stuff. Boss didn't check the trim switch on the transmitter and as he turned around, it was just in time to see #2 slowly (as in slo-mo) crawl off the TT and whack! Now, incidents like that are the reason that #2 has been rebuilt so many times. Also, large "posts" have been installed on the big TT's to (hopefully) prevent this.
Charley got his 35 ruler....hoo hah!

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Woodrow, fellers..., Si...

And a coolio ruler it is...

I think 1:35th wants to be a bigger railway {prototype}..the Shay.whist being ten tonner or so..in toody fitte...are rather too large {?}  for the micro go around right hand corners...

Today that has me thinking...{ watch it there big boiy...!} that the indutrail mining 18" gauge interest served best in 1/2 in scale..and the building of a "proper " railway in the smaller / larger...1 : toody 5th...

This all awaits the fullness of time...although i cannot resist the odd project to keep my hand in..the workbench project is almost upon us..as the shower is done..the bathroom sink thing needs put in place to allow siting the workbench..

And all this  waits  being there...I am off in truck again..new batteries this morning..the last ones lasted about 4 years...they owe me nothing..4  ea 950 amp hour batteries at $427 or so..gotta keep er flying ..or no income..runs outta fuel..crashes ...sad affair..

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Woodrow , fellers...

I know Woodrow has said.,.,..the differences between 1:35th and 1:32 nd do not bother him..

{maybe I shouldn't speak for him..?..something like the scales when not exact side by side or sothin..?}

Wul..I wanted to illustrate whot the differences are ..which amount to thousanths of inches.

My point is..not much in the scheme of things..

1:35 th scale foot in thous..      0.0342

1:32 nd scale  foot  in thous.     0.0375...

HO std / nee 0n30" track gauge is 0.649 thous.../ 16.5 mil..

I put this in my own thread ..for a change...

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Bought today Stalin and co..1:35th scel..five figgers in moderate civvies ..

interesting set and will build them soon as they have this interest..nice figgers..

distributed by squadron...made in Rus...ICM kit number 35613....

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Charley-if the "scale thing" bothers you, then I offer...8.25MM = 1' 0"..no need for any figgerin' or cypherin'...
And those other figgers, have fun messing with them. Wait till you start making ladies out of nazis...that'll get em' back!!

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Charley, Woodrow is THE man when it comes to chopping apart little bodies, then selecting various pieces and reassembling them.

One out of many sort of thing

Or, as you would say-

Eat Platypus Uranium 

:doh:

Did I really write that?

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Herbie , Woodrow ,fellers..and Si cause he chimes in...:wave:


Making ladies out of Nazi's...mmmmmm loaded stuff ...no straight line goes un punished...:old dude:

This set are really clever...sort of fifties era civies...moderate epalutaige....easy fix..hats ..heads with hair..for all of them..the one guy with jack boots is already a Borax field engineer..

I have been known to beat hell out of figgers too...I am wont to start with the really difficult ones...I am a  bit more picky about "stuff" today...piciyoune....moo hahahahah

These figgers are stage props ..all mine are..they don;t get plonked down forever more...they stay one place for awhile..then move on..for fotos..and etc...

I put little pins in their feets...

Course..I have no stage...YET...










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Woodrow,fellers..

and by God....I see the 342 thous per foot...as 1026 thous per three foot..which is dang close three foot per actual inch..

As a rough measure..

I have a ruler...

And,...the ultimate test....really..is ....does the stuff cry out in the wilderness...TWO FOOTERZA...and the answer is Yezza...

SO then..and further more...this 26 thous over one actual inch for three foot amounts to an inch..dang near...compensated .../spread ...over three scale foot...:w:

A scale  inch being 28.5 thous...compare to yer 26 thous...

I don't see this as..and I offer it ..NOT...as picking nits..more as picking noses..moo hahahhaah

But I digress...


It is putting nits in their own perspective...they are small...they do not matter..




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Charley-I gotta git me some of them commies! Whatta great find.

Nits...picks..nits with picks and a shovel. Them guys are too ugly for makin into ladies...I'll keep "fixin" nazis, theys purtier boys anyway.

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Woodrow , fellers...Muj....

Those commies are rather bad guys givin their druthers..disappearing Vicaros....50 thousand per year to keep them on their toes..who pray will pick the rutabegas..?..

So watch em'...

Maybe we could put em' on the rock pile night and day for eternity...?..

But ..Uuum yeah..these are very usable figgers...I suspect they..even just painted different would be quite a pile o figgers..five in the box..mix n match heads..Uuum 5 times..XX variations..a thousand different figgers..

I just pulled that outta the aire..cause I ain't so good at higher maths...

Mbbhhhoooohahhahaahahahah???   :y:      :td:  :2t:  ;)   :f:   :mex:

Good morning from Phoenix AZ...

I am gonna ride bike over and see the Porter on deesplay...fotos to follow..I have shewn it before..but not on 12 2 12 ..


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Shewn are fotos of a Bachmans Forney type...and one of the 4-4-0 ..as size examples of the figgers bragged up..

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fellers..

Fotos of two trucks..one is the Bachmanns std archbar..the other is the shapeways 3 D printed Gilpin truck..wheelsfrom the Bachmann truck installed..this truck was painted Floquil "Engine black.."...and the faces of the wheels as well..this shows the grainy surface ...I think the surface is fine...in fact..maybe better..a bit of grime /crud / coating is quite the norm..








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One of the few times that a fill in flash would have helped, Chas.



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Herbie Woodrow ,Si...fellers..

Wul..yup..I tried to get the light in there..moving angles..but the flash may need done..

I am over to Beach street to down-ladle most of my steel stuff..8# rails made the trip..and ties and iron mongery...there is room for an 18" gauge line there ..I have enough 12# railed snap track to do er and some...


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Woodrow , Herbie , fellers..

Check this out..some thing big..holy smokes...





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Woodrow..

Is this cool or whot..you gonna need start mining Borax in Death valley ..:old dude:

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You mean the rails are still intact?

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Charley-I'm still debating a new Tequilla operation, Borax don't mix with booze....Neat photos, looks like my kind of place.

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Elminero ,Woodrow..fellers.

Those fotos were taken yesterday...

And yeah..Borax washes away the effects of tookillya..


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What time yesterday? You realize that the pitnickers will ask about the time of day and the direction that the sun shines. What's that about "I got yer sun shine...right here!"...Hmmm

I had better watch out or I will have to delete my post!!
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Woodrow Herbie , Si , fellers..

I think   the pick nickers.nose pickers..are realizing the futility of not building models..and are mass holes and el-bowls into model building and taking fotoes to shews...fer sure..

That is whot I thinks..









I took one hundred seven fotos..we walked about half the line...return to moon surface planned..I think eventually I will put all of the fotos on here..

I find them motivational....

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Woodrow , fellers..

I like this almost more than anything...almost..








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Man-that track looks to be in better shape than mine...and I run heavy ore trains on my track! Great stuff Charley, please continue with the tour.

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Agreed, those are very interesting pictures. Of course, the lack of trees and vegetation is a dead giveaway that it is a scale model.

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Elminero , Woodrow..feller.s.

Yeah that Excelsive ore fakir...is at it again..lying about models..and or the real deals which never were , but coulda been....

Thanks for the encouragement.....

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And Yours truly at the "Amargosa Opera house" , Death Valley jct , pre trip.





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I don't know about you guys....but I am having fun with this...





Ken Neighbarger of the Terrapin Narrow gauge society checks in.....



[img]">Keith Pattison and Ken walk toward dune...returning only if Princess Lay ya says so..

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Princess Laying about edited this one out..I am trying again..

Ken Neighbarger and Keith Pattison..co-conspiritors...etc ...etc..


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Keet shews Borax Ore / crystals...



Ken runs from rumbling freight train...?...

I stood my ground...camera at the ready...






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[img]">A relic found at the Widow mine...the big pile shewn previous...the cans are Union carbide...for the miners lamps...carbide /water makes acetylene  ..gas...
There were about forty of these cans strewn hither and yon...

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Now we are walking back down the line..north -ish..we walked about half the line we think...next rip will be from the middle and northering...



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elminero67 wrote: Agreed, those are very interesting pictures. Of course, the lack of trees and vegetation is a dead giveaway that it is a scale model.
And a model that is operated with battery power and radio control--notice that the track hasn't been scrubbed with a Bright Boy lately.


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Charley

Really neat set of pictures. Amazing that with scrap being high, someone hasn't ripped all the rail up. Looks to me that even if the location is remote, the quantity would make it a paying proposition.

I ain't complaining understand--just the salvage rat that lives inside where my brain used to be woke up early.


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I found the fact that the frogs are assembled to metal plates to be especially interesting. I've never seen that before except in model trackage. Maybe I'm just dim but that was way cool.

Very nice shots there boys. I also liked the shot of the track setting in midair, totally unsupported.

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Golly be! I am glad that someone besides me doesn't like to make trees! That fellow shown in one of the photos looks like a dude shown on America's Most Wanted last week. I am looking to collect a reward.

As little Oliver said to his headmaster-"may I have some more photos please?"

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Sirs ,fotos winging..we are at about 40 of 107...off to brunch at the senior center..and dominoes..back later..I am also buying a place down on Beach street along the Amargosa there...paper started...

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Woodrow ,Elminer o fellers..

Clouds near scud in Beatty...I know it is hard to believe...








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Some of these shots are similar...taken from the same vantage quite often...framed different ...




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This abutement is an original alignment.the tracks now go up canon  abit and around..a bridge here,footings..is all there is  left






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fellers ..yet more...tell me to stop..make me stop...before I foto again..









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Woodrow ,Elminero,fellers..

Whot we are seeing is the two levels coming together..the upper we called it level one..down and the middle level..we called second..coming up...

there is a third level which as far as we have seen it has no track..ties in places.....but no track..it will come togedda with levels one /two as combined...which join shortly and we walked to that  junction..fotos will shew...

This is walking in a northerly direction toward Ryan { new}...

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Charley - thanks for posting all those photos - awesome scenery - it kind of looks like a model railroad!

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Keith , Woodrow ,fellers..

I am still reeling...A model railroad among rocks ..ROCKS....stone of all varietey..mostly desert varnish of millions of years in the sun...

Very stark....I think it spectacular...in winter...I won't out there in summer..a bit softer than the valley floor...but it gets moderate hot ..










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Charley-

Did these tracks eventually end up at some kind of a processing plant, or was the borax just loaded into trucks or railcars?

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Herbie , fellers...Woodrow...

A bin to dump into the 3' Death valley NG...to Tonapah & Tidewater about 16.7 miles east...at DVJct..there was a concentrator for mill run....and transfer for high grade..See it all on line..


links etc...


Tonapah tidewater site..with baby gauge article...

http://www.ttrr.org/tt_tocs.html




Another site with section on baby gauge..

http://ghosttownexplorers.org/ghostdes.htm#Baby




Death valley history page..lotsa...

http://www.nps.gov/history/history/online_books/deva/contents.htm


This one has fotos of Rayn { new }...and therein the fotos of the Lokey and baby gauge passenger train intact in a  tunnel there...the lokies brother is on display at Furnace creek with other mining and Death valley artifacts

http://www.panamintcity.com/ryan/ryantown.html

how about them apples...?



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yet more...we are up to about 76 of 107...









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Charley:

You just keep coming up with more and more great stuff - thank you for sharing it.

All your photos point out that this would be a bad place to have a derailment! That is some rugged county. On the other hand, modeling it would be simple from the standpoint that you would not need to model any trees. Great stuff - inspiring for a modeling subject.

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Yep, this is a real treat! To mis construe the old line-"trees, we don't need no stinkin' trees!"...Indeed, this is a model waiting to happen. Keep us going Charley!

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Woodrow...Keith...Herbie..fellers...

I really dig this stuff..inspiration to be sure..I think the tracks could be anywheres...trees..canals..bridges..or not..

I am motivated to do a mining line..there was seven types of Borate...this or that crystal..I noticed several types of stuff that looked like borate..wondered until I re read some stuff on this operation..

Why not borate/Borax...doesn't matter whot the road hauls..some stuff which goes in hoppers...

I thought of a line which gets cordwood from higher up..and incline to let the stuff down to the mine../mill boilers..or pit props or whatever...higher up are trees..other side of backdrop in reality...?..top of incline one side..bottom other..no real elevation changed hands..makes it legal in most states..moo hahahahahah

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Woodrow fellers..

We are walking in ...south toward the way we came...from...except on level two..numbah one being the top level of tracks in this are.a...three total grades..the lower ..we call three is devoid of track..as far as we sawr it...











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The tracks on level two end just south / below this switch...




sleeping dogs in situ....



This is the culvert under the wash we walked up / down to get to the place from the road...reputed 300 foot elevation change..felt like it..

AND...this is all for this trip..we are going to walk the north end -o- line either sunday or monday...fotos...probably likely...

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Woodrow , herbie ,fellers..

The last fotos in the file are sent in from the co conspirators...

Epilog...credits..lack of..

Three stooges...L - R..Keet Pattison ...Ken Neighbarger ....Charley Lix

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[img]">Ken and Charley chortling

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Glad that you took the stroll--even gladder that you took the photos!!!

Waiting fer da udder end-----


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We are going tomorrow..call it church...

I dug into VHS tapes..I have "Fire at the mine"..by  Dodge...alot of ruining a perfectly good car..not much of baby gauges...

I have also.."Death valley days"..by US Borax..this shews alot of the baby gauge running..."million dollar wedding"

The thing says at end..http://www.death valley days.com....if you can see the seerialized shew it might shew alot of the Baby gauges...this episode shewn a bunch of the train..Milwaukee lokey..and cars...as part of the skit...filmed at Ryan...{ the new..}...

Very neat givin my recent acquaintance..

Fotos might be several days coming..I am gonna go drive around a bit..the monday..

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Wow, what a great bunch of photos! I didn't know the rails were still in place on the Ryan baby gauge. Also didn't know it was accessible. I'll have to check it out sometime during one of my Nevada/Mojave trips.

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Ray ,Woodrow...fellers..

Might be you'd like a guided tour..?...I live fair close ....easy enough if I am around ,not working...plans could be made..

More ..or fotos from todays walkabout...

Start..cavalcade..barrage...

This first....three levels  of grade ...find Oscar..?..the top two having tracks upon...




Your scribe...attained level three, lowest , trackless...We walked up where we left off last time..the junctions of level one..top...and level two...middling..



Whomsoever lifted this bit of line left alot of iron bits laying about..




Scribe ,arriving level two..middling..past junctions of level one and two...looking south toward muntioned junction...


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Ken Neighbarger, rep of the Terrapin NG society...on hand to monitor events.



This some odd siding..a loadout..a chute to the level below..?..switch ties in place..next foto,..




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Hey Charley, it's been a great week of walking 2' Borax RR.
The line and track condition was amazing, weather was perfect.
The vista from the Grand View Mine was just that.
I ended up with over 400 photos for 2 days of fun.

Looking forward to the next visit / adventure.....

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Here are a few of Charlie on this weeks walk about.....







We had a great time.............:2t:
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Much better than belly lint!

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Elminero..Ken , Woodrow..fellers..

I get belly button lint in such small quantities...saving for weeks for one good sweater...

Thanks for posting those..some grand deal for sure...

And whatta ya know..we are sitting there...just having lunch.....and up comes mister Francis Marion Borax hisself..foto shewn...amazing thing the flivver having survived all these years in the hot Death valley sun..amazing..


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Ken , Woodrow , Elminero fellers..



Terrapins own surveyor of narrow gauges ...high paid feller..hard to keep on job..union employee ..wanted lunch..complained of ginger cookies instead of oatmeal raisin..etc etc...geeez..





Ghosts of soldiers passed..saluting ...?..



Two handed salute..?..

up to 12 of 191...jeez..this will be some time..neat stuff coming tho' fer sure..


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Feller , Woodrow...Ken..Herbie..Si..Elminero..Marylin..whoooa..baby...gauges...

But ..I digress...



So we got one of them hobby lobby "model railroader "cardboard cutouts..pose it in fotos..



Major tin can dump..case yer wondering why the foto of the hill side..?..level three..bottom with no tracks shewn..below..










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This was such  aneat spot..I took alot of fotos of this cut ...








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That is some field trip Charlie. Loving the photo's.
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Charley-ya'll are having too much damn fun! Wish I was there also.

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Woodrow , fellers..

Did our lear jet driver not find you..we sen:mex:t..em....



This cut is the "new " line..old goes out around..:doh:








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Ryan { the new} in the distance...








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fellers..Woodrow,

We are soon at the "Grand view mine..." you'll wonder why they call it that..?..moo hahaha or not..[img]">

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This is arriving at the Grand View mine...the view willbe seen by those who look..forest for the trees etc etc..








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This wye goes right into the mountain...the tunnel shewn earlier leading from the line at that cribbed bridge is the other end of this tunnel..the Grand view mine..here..is almost certain to have chutes within this tunnel to load ore into the railway cars...


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This is the closed off portal , very much has been done to seal tunnels..burying them outrightor closing themin this fashion...culvert with angle iron barricades..





This is a powder house.hard sides..soft top...strong door..door says "danger'...




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Hence the whole grand view name thing..







Note , one guard rail is longer than ta other..and not spiked...welded to a gauge bar..




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Leaving grand view...from here on northering...a tracked { tracklaying tractor../Cat..}machine has done alot of damage to the tracks...I have tried to take fotos NOT...shewing damages..the old girl need her dignity...










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Looking back across the valley at the cut , and by pass....Cape horn / Panama canal..ALA SP in the Sierra..I didn't make that up..







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Under the black mountains rim...Greenwaters are behind /west of us..








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Charley:

Awesome pictures, as usual! I must have missed this earlier, but about what year did this railroad quit running?

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I think the mining stopped in 27 or so..the line was kept as a tourist operation..{fledgling..} the Ryan camp dorms as a hotel..the Ryan camp has been used by Pacific coast Borax through the years.,.as equipment storage..

The line ran until about the late 50's as a tourist line..rumours of running into the sixties..?


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Wow, such great stuff! Too bad about the mines being sealed/buried, I hate when they do that.

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Ray , Woodray...fellers..

Ken is more of a go in the mines guy than me..I'lldo a bit..but the scary tight places..I'd rather not be there with the tommy knockers for ever..

The ropes and squeeze through..not so much..but it does take a,lot away from the understanding of the place..

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Feller,Woodrow

Here is a link sent in by Bill David..he of the Ill famed Terrapin NG society....secret hand shakes..conspiratorial whispers in halls of congress etc etc..


http://www.dannyraythomas.com/bookVI/the_baby_gage_railroad/the_baby_gage_railroad.html

A very nice article on the baby gauge..


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I am enjoying the pictures, cool stuff. I need to get out there sometime.
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[img]">Fellers...

This bridge is pretty neat..you didn't get that ?sorry , I repeat the obvious..state the ob......there are 90 or so more fotos..As I can..

It got rather cold out here..I was in Ely Nevadar ..QUITE...cold..back in Beatty..my pipes froze and burst..huh..whot about them palm trees and the salubrious climate I been crowing about..

Rather colder than the yearly averages spoke of..the means , since records began..are means..not over all lows and highs..generally speaking.ahem etc..etc.

A foto of a neat thing seen in Ely ....shewn first..then the meat of the matter..

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Well..huh..here with I hope fotos..










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This shot is the start of  a pan series of the underside of the bridge...bents..




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Then looking north and west-ish...the grand view...






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Pointing out..these guys were miners..who ever built this bridge..this is built as shoring in a mine..I think the timbers were even cut in the Dedisheimer square set...Uuum..not square frames..but the mortise and tenon..-ish end of the timbers. The bracing and blocking implies miners..not railroad bridge builders..?.





Ken..friend of Bill Davis...said this was boiler tube..


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The remoteness of the "Baby Gauge" has saved some of it, but it's a shame that some sort of a tourist ride couldn't utilize it.

But then, probably only nuts like us would ride--not enough potential income to even begin to think of restoration.

Doesn't cost much to dream tho--



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Herbie ,Woodrobie, Elminerobie Fellers..

The dream is neat..the real stuff is neat..I have a dream..live the dream..the dream team ..etc etc..but I digress...

Reality is ....dollars out vs in..taxes administrational overhead..pretty girls to work the ticket counter..drive the trains..trouble getting them to wear bikiini's...;)

The thing was operated as a tourist line..and hotel..{Ryan miners barracks..}..there might be enough people to ride it now.tourists....although the place is rather quieter in summer..

This area {region? } is really quite a bit quieter......even in this day and age..part of the reason I moved out this way...

Whot I wanted to say when I  answered..:w:was ..modelling is neat..we can lift the stuff..there are manifold advantages to building models..the real thing is very difficult in many ways..

That said..I have some rails..made up as 18" gauge panel tracks.lay em down bolt them togedda....I will build 18" gauge in my garden....not too much mind you..and not too heavy..but it needs done..as simply as and as easy as it can be..

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Obie wan , fellers..

More fotos as got a minute..

[img]">We are getting to the north end of the line..excepting  Ryan   {the new]    which is as far as we know inaccessible..there is a tunnel under the very rough bluff..and the old line out around with slide sheds. The level of Ryan town is lower by one bunker height...the tourist line wound down and around to get to town level in the tourist days...

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These fotos shew the other side of the canon..due west of Ryan ..this area was served by the tail track of the wye of the three foot gauge..











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This is thought to be a hand car....note rounded ends of frame sills....neat axle boxes..two extant.




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Charley: I think I'll refer to these pics next time I lay track as they. Really capture the way wood and rail weather in a desert environment. Amazing how intact it is, and is nice to see that people resisted the urge to steal all of the artifacts.

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It could be that those who steal artifacts are wussies and the desert environment is much too harsh for their thin and ugly skin. OK, is that a good answer? Death Valley is not the place for idiots or thieves.
As for the track, I have found that basswood ties look much the same as those ties after a few years under the sun.

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Never underestimate thieves: we have one historic minesite hidden deep in the woods and accessed only by muletrails, that someone literally hired a helicopter to steal the Pelton Wheel for their personal collection. At another site someone figured out a way to load a jaw crusher, which I estimate weighed about 1500 lbs, onto their ATV to add to their personal collection.
Not to hijack Charley's thread, because I know he would never do that to anyone else, but taking artifacts, even bottles and cans, from historic sites is a felony.
Off my soap box (and just kidding Charley).

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Elminero Woodrow fellers..

Threads are for sharing..after laundering..:dope:...hopefully...this whole thing is for sharing the enthusiasm of {supposed to be railways.}but we do,,other things,,.mines fer instance..

Imagine an interest specific site on the internet /web /WWW . thing..how cool would that be ..and if everybody chimed in with interesting stuff..built models..shared fotos...how cool would that be...

Merry Christmas..etc,..etc..

Across the canon..cul...the slide shed..it is apparently a waste pile shed..the line out around under poison rock.."one drop will kill you.."...

Anybody read the article by Gordon Chappell...

http://www.dannyraythomas.com/bookVI/the_baby_gage_railroad/the_baby_gage_railroad.html

This article ..can be clicked on and enlarged..then click again it shinks up..turn the page..click enlarge...read..it is really good..










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Great photos Charley !

Merry Christmas.

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The waste slide shed...in ruin..this on the old line out around Poison rock..I will add a nice foto of poison rock next..








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Is this a cool pitcher or whot..?



Above is poison rock..one drop will kill you etc etc..as far as i know it..???



Note straight pipe on lokey..musta been some tune...




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Hi Charley

Nice pics again !

That HUGE boulder, on 'poison rock'...
...would be great to model...
...it looks like she should have 'tumbled down' years ago...
...no one would believe it in a model...
..." un-realistic !!! "...
...powers of gravity & all !.

Mmmm...?

Cheers

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HNY !

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"Note straight pipe on lokey..musta been some tune..."

Yeah and smelt good inside the mine!


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Back side..south..looking north ...side of the styrofoam un realistic mountain which holds poison rock ..



A rather largish rock on a ped...



Back side of axle box on push car



And now we are walking back along the line in southering direction..different light...needs different fotos..course..duh...etc..etc..:old dude:

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Ryan the new from afar...








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The last photo (above) looks like the Mogollon Railway after a rain shower without being covered up! At least we get rain here in Tejas. This is an intriguing series you have going...keep it up Charley (that's what she said last night!)...

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Woodrow Elminero felleros

I am gonna run out of extant two foot railway fotos..moo hahahahahahah






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Char-lee...then you had better get to work on some new projects or visit some more neat places so we can continue to be amazed at the photos.

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Yeah..I knew the hammer was dropping..hopefully sometime this year i can have a place and the time to build ought..

I do like to build models..the new place has room for mine tracks in the garden..{ that is english for yard..}...course ..plenty of clean up will need done before I can just lay down the tracks and bolt em togedda..














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So how about a pix of the new digs Charley?



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Hate to ask after you have posted so many great photographs, but is there any chance you have a better shot of that rock retaining wall?

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OK..the place is rather rough..as in stuff scattered hither and yon..the fellow who lived here went away to hospital and never came home..two years ago..his pick em up trcuk is still in drive..pitchers on walls..inside..as he left..it will get cleaned out of possessions the family wants..



This is from the far north corner..looking almost due south west..the streets in the old part of town are 45 * off north south..?..the lot{S} eight of them..four with utilities...old miners town remember...lots for shotgun housing..

This corner is 279' from other end..the back line is 209'long..hence the angle this end..the place is 100' deep with a ten foot alley givin that there are multiple lots..not an easement..unless lots are sold off perhaps..?..



Literally the other corner..looking almost due east..gate my side of fence line is alley..er railway line..



Corner of Beach street..running across foto..and Montgomery along side truck..Montgomery was  abig dude hereabouts in the mining days.The big mine in Rhyolite was the "Montgomery"...Beatty was one of the original white dudes..a squaw man..nice place with a big spring..about half a mile off..across the river..



Closer in looking SW...



Artsy fartsy shot of the neat old IH pick em up across street..through the "Salt Cedar" these trees speak desert to me..the locals call them weeds as they are "thirsty "trees..use alot of water..I think they are Tamarisk...?..

The fellow across the street has a tin shop building with lots of glass..lotsof cool iron in the garden..so we should get along fine..?..




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Looks like my kind of a place also, Charlie!

Stick a small windmill atop that TV tower?

Keep the R/C batteries charged up---


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Wow, this scene looks just like a really well-done model RR layout!

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Ray ,Woodrow,Elminero, fellers..Si ..?..

It is , the bin and incline tram in the background...is the one I foto'd from across the canon to the left..{south}..I could not tell whot it was from there..plain from here..

This place is fantastic. I enjoy visiting places like this.I don't live to hike around in the ruins. I enjoy them as inspiration to build models.

Models can be  the best of all the places ,rolled into one scene with all the coolest features..unless a fellow is one of the model it on august 25 th 1927 at 4 Pm..types..this fellow limits himself to whot actually was and gives a target for fellows who will count type and number of rivets.

I am known to resent the rivet counter. Actually laying traps for the vermin..laughing out loud when they fall ....

but I digress. building models is light work,usually inside , rust is painted on instead of wire brushed feverish to preserve work....sorta etc etc..

These fotos are really good to connect the past with the current . A neat journey.










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Which rock retaining wall..?  If Charlie didn't get it, there is a good chance that I did.
I have 400+ photos from the 2 day walk about with Charlie. :bg:

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Walkabout eh? Ya'll out in the bush for sure. Yep, mo' photos would be nice.

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Ken ,fellers..

I think the one with the timber along the tops...north of the cut around the point with the old line around the outside..?across that shelf...just south of the Grand view..


OR....


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Ray Dunakin wrote: Charley wrote:





Wow, this scene looks just like a really well-done model RR layout!


Charlie didn't mention that I have a 15.9MB photo (5843 x 4252) of that Ryan photo.
Just not sure how to share it... You can see an amazing amount of detail.
If there is a way to share it with out messing something up, let me know. L:
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Hi Charley

YOU are just THE artist...BOO JAH !!!

Your pics. in POST 332 esp...
...could be in the MOMA...
...IMO.

You have an eye, dudeski !!!

Cheers.

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elminero67 wrote: Hate to ask after you have posted so many great photographs, but is there any chance you have a better shot of that rock retaining wall?
With Charlie's OK, here are the photos I took in that area.....
This is the first of 2 like this..





And this is the 2nd...




Here are some various rock fills in the area, though I don't have the specific one Charlie
showed. I was interested in all the different variations of "pipe" to channel water through
the different fill areas....










A park boundary sign...


And finally, Charlie scouting for anything we might have missed.....
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G'day Ken

If you have the picture on your computer, I would think posting a link would be the best way.

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Don Mcl Woodrow ,Eminero ,Ken ,fellers..Si.

I like putting fotos  here..silly as it may sound..I think they and the views during this time are preserved...

My late HO railroad exists on digits..as long as the model railroader hobbiest website exists..the model railroad can be viewed..

The glasses are old 7x 35 field glasses..A fellow can see quite a bit with those..


And..Si..I hadn't realized the posts were numbered...although ..duh..

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Charley
What a motherlode of info!!!!!! I keep going back to through the posts and kep finding interesting tidbits. Would reaaly like to see it in person. Link or posts, I am a big fan.
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Clif ,Woodrow Elminerio Fellers...Si..

It still amazes me..now plans afoot for doing the three foot gauge portions..different approaches...driving vs walking the line..the west end perhaps walking along the line under black mesa rim..I think that is whot it is called..?.











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Paladin wrote: G'day Ken

If you have the picture on your computer, I would think posting a link would be the best way.

Don


That is something I have never done, Don.
I'll have to figure it out....... L:

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Scan the photo, then crop a particular item of interest?


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fellers..

A different sort of light..colours..scenery...







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Herb Kephart wrote: Scan the photo, then crop a particular item of interest?


Herb


Good idea....





















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Ken , fellers..

holy toledo..anybody see the incline in the shop area...with rails..?..stacked along it on the sides..

How about the bridge behind the engine house..- Ish..going out around the poison rock pile..?..whot goes on it..I see no rails there..?..sides like a flume..


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I am totally enjoying this mile by mile picture essay. Hope you still have plenty more to go...

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Sullivan Woodrow , fellers..

Wul..we are about out..seems like 185 of 191 or so..these are the trip back in differing light..Ken Neighbarger and I are planning a hike /drive /trip along the three foot portion of the line ..Death Valley railway..this line from Death Valley junction to Ryan ..the new...16.7 miles...and there is the branch to Ryan { the old }..Lila C. mine site..












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Woodrow , Herbie , Si....Elminero, fellers...

I wanted to report ..the test site guys..Area 51 ..are out flying around the neighborhood..see foto..I have a special camera...etc etc..


Snow this morning in Beatty,...whot the...?..I was promised "salubrious"climate...


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So "they've" come to take you away Charley, have they! That's some special camera!
By the way, your "borax line" photo record makes a superb landscape and weathering reference. All saved for the future.
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Doug ,Woodrow ,Elmino,fellers...

The aliens have landed...stopped in at the happy Burro for chili and beer..everybody acts normal...they are pretty regular there ,  tho'..

The Borax line fotos are made and will be here as long as the freerails site is..that is good..a very unique and wonderful thing..

I went back through this whole thread .I enjoyed the fotos ..,all the prototype things and several models..it is all whot I like..neat thing to be able to craft your own little bit of the E world...

Thanks to everybody who comments ..

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The aliens are wearing lampshades for hats? Thought only drunk party goers did that--or are these drunk party going aliens?

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Herbie .Woodrow ..fellers..

Are you seeing things we cannot..?..and whot are you takin..?..can we have some..? I am pretty sure that phenome' is Alien activity...they visit here cause we got the pretty chicks...? alien chicks..?..pretty Alien chicks..

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WARNING CHARLEY LIX-ALIENS APPROACHING!

Mui buen?

Mmmmmmm-ale'n chicks...

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Alien chicks always look pretty 'green' to me at partys...
...not used to the % in the Margarita's !!!

'Secret Narrow Gauge Lines Of Area 51'...
...potential BESTSELLER ! I shouldn't wonder !

Cheers.

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HNY peeps !

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fellers...

A neat calabooset ....


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Woodrow, Duane, fellers..

Came across some very interesting pitchers from the French side of the first war to end all wars,,










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Charley:

Thanks for posting more photos. You always come up with such interesting stuff.

Keith

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Keith , Woodrow, El miner o...fellers...

Thanks..I send the good stuff..there is the world wide web thing..a new {brave] new world...

I have painted a bit on Stalin and the boys..this is not finis..but along far enough that I am willing to shew them..they are management and the mining engineer...in the long tall boots..for the non initiates...1:35th scale..












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fellers..

Another neat foto..


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I like those WW I pictures you put up there. I can't tell if those lads are fighting a war or having a great time operating their large scale garden railroad.

Dan B

Also: I got to get a dinky loco like that for the back of my truck.

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Hi Charlie

That photo, plus another photo, plus drawings, plus a set of photos of

this locomotive built by Gordon Brirrell are available on my Flickr site. Also

you will find numerous other sets of drawings of other Baldwin narrow gauge

locomotives. A friend of mine who had worked in the Baldwin boiler design group

allowed me to photograph them and I put them on the Flickr site to share.

The link to my site is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/knepp736/sets

The link to Gordon Birrells site is:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/77318580@N00/

Gordon is an outstanding modeler mostly in 3/4 inch scale. Be sure to

look back through his photos.

Ron Knepp

P.S. If anyone has the drawings for a Hartford Hobart Estates caboose

and is willing to share scans please let me know. I purchased a "NEW"

kit from Stanley Ames that was missing  1/2 the drawings. He has been totally

a xxxxx about retuning the kit. He said that a person cannot expect "New"

stock to be complete

Sorry for the Rant....

 

 

 

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Charley-the rouges' gallery is great! Those guys really look like mine owners. I keep saying that I will get a set...saying...right now, 1:87 is taking my time, 1:35 is in the back yard, under cover, outta mind in a galaxy far far away for the moment. But spring is coming and Missy keeps asking when are we gonna do some work in the yard...not yard mowing but track laying.

Hava Tequilla
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http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=4919&forum_id=5

Here's what is keeping me bizzy

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Dagnabbit Ron-

I was hoping to get something done today, and along you come with all those neat pictures!

Well, there is always tomorrow---


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Charley:

The civilians turned out great! I think I saw the 1:35 figure set advertised once that you had used. You saw their potential and made some convincing figures out of them.

Looking forward to seeing more of your work...

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Hi Charley

I missed your 1:35 figures...
...nice work dude !

I have some here at the moment ( without heads ! ) as well.

Are they the Tamiya famous leaders/generals set ?

My damn loggers don't look right with jerry tin hats & 'M' field jackets ( yet ).

Nice painting Charley...
...any 'trade secrets'?

Cheers.

Si.

Wot no pitchers ?
Have you run out of memory cards ?

Area 51 magnetic field erases secret NG-line data...
...camera found in desert...
...owner presumed...

...ABDUCTED !!!

( if you're o u t t h e r e Charley...
...keep up the good work dude ! )
..
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Si , Woodrow , Elminero , fellers..

Thanks for the lookout...shout out..Owner of camera on work detail..left for trucking some time ago..made 4300 miles or so..


Up to the mines..then over to cal..back to Reno/ Sparks... thence Phoenix and back...and over to cal round trip again..


Parked in Sparks Nevada..have a tooth which is giving me trouble..root canal done..swelling on the wane..very nice..I was in some pain..,hard to do almost anything with big pain in the ...Uuum tooth..eye tooth..1 1/4 inch root..all infected..so far we think the tooth is saved. in a month they will re open the case and investigate..then a crown.,as in JEWELS..oh yah..,now he bitches..,after the pain is being run off...

No real train fotos or interesting things seen...weather is moderate in Reno / Sparks...seems like mid 20's f at night..sunny and cool days..

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Got any figure painting tips Sir ?

Si.

( I have Humbrol Enamels & artists oils & acrylics...
...no acrylic model paint ( same stuff though, innit ? ( bit thicker perhaps ( I fancy the enamels myself )))).

?

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Si , Woodrow , fellers..

My painting {for now..the curtent iteration..} and it does change..not only from job to job..but day to day..as i recall..or do not...recall..

etc etc ..blah blah..

I mean to say..now..I have wally world acrylics..these are cheap over here...base colours..used as a wash usually..mixed on the fly and tinted to get a different colour for each new set of duds...{ clothes to you Duane..}...

It is an in exact science..in fact..quite in exact...perhaps even damn un repeatable..and sometimes I think it is a failure..till I add yet another layer of colour on top of the odd shade of green laid in last time.

All that said..it is best to take some time to let each layer dry up...see whot happened and add / change onto that..

Always washes ..which implies ...thinned paint..these "apple barrel" paints are rather a cheaper brand and of rather less quality as actual paint..they are a handy source of base pigments..thin to your desire..

The "real " figger guys...painnt em black ..,then paint from the inside out..meaning inside details then the shirts etc ..I try that but fail..doing what ever i see..that whole triple digit ADD thing...


I will add more fotos when i get to it..I am out and about...

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Hey Charley--

I'm tired of waiting!

When are you going to get to the belly button lint?

Herb

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Sir {S}....

Need a shop and a much higher standard of method and finish for the whole {B.B.}....lint thing..

yessir..

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" WAITER...WAITER...There's LINT in my Raspberry Pi ! "

Hi Charley

Just been lookin' at the 'black outwards' technique, in a military modelling book.
Haven't tried it yet.
Only tried from grey primer, in the past.

Those table top goblin & whotnot gamers...
...seem to like the 'black outwards' tech as well.

I ain't painted a figure for...y e a r s !

Scary !

Si.

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Si , Woodrow feller.s

I heard of the black outward method and it made sense,.,I mess it up though..they just evolve till they are acceptable..to thick a paint is bad..washes almost never leave so much paint on that the people become swaddled..

Then I never just leave the peoples on the layout..they are props for foto'ing...get names..work around the railroad and sometimes get into fotos when big fancy cars full of city feid railfans some with their,graf flex,.,.ni have a bladder..4 x 5 's..etc etc..cameras...

Someday when there is a railway to foto..

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Hi Charley

Get one of those city-dwellers 4x5 plates...
...and make a 1930s' micro !!!

I can hear those flash-bulbs poppin' already !

Cheers.

Si.

( maybe, diorama, not much track fit on 4x5 plate ! )

Boo Yah !

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Very interesting work and really interesting links. Thanks for the posts guys.
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fellers..

The Excelsior imperial railways has taken delivery of a 2 foot gauge well tank engine . the biz mucky mucks and a mining mucky mucker are examining the new lokey...It is reputed to be used on a greek or slovakian seashore light railway..the story is a bit vague..due languages and distances..the steamship... with the news is in transit..

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Woodrow , fellers..

The big news...is..I have taken possession of Beach street res. ....yesterday we moved out a mountain of four generations of hoarders.

T[img]">he place is down to carpet...I huge a huge of [/img]
Fotos shews the "radio" room...this fellow..George senior was a ham...

The place is five bedrooms..rather rough...not structurally...a bit opf paint and rooving shingles..general tidying...

That is yer report from Beatty Nevadar...




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Congrats, Charley. :thumb:
Let the transition begin......

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Super that you have a place of yer own.

Of course, we expect instant work on some kind of a layout. With that many bedrooms some significant wall removal will leave you with a BIG area----

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Smart move Herb...
...I was just thinkin' that myself.

Charley 'll probably take up N-Scale micro-layouts now !!!

NICE ONE Charley !

You been busy...
...was wonderin' why no 'pitchers'.

All the best.

Si.

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Si ,Woodrow , Herbie.... fellers...

A big deal..there is room for a workshop...a layout..the HO Tidewater { re dux..}  line is planned in a smaller form..and the 1:35th...and the 1/2 n 18"...these two are planned as rather smaller layouts as well..roundies almost..conceived as about 2' x 4 ' ....

First and foremost..,..is the 18" gauge one to one line in garden...this amounts to grading..and bolting it together...as it is all snap track panels..

AND...er ..first is a relative term...in the sense that the house needs some attention...but..all worked together...

I shot some fotos today...I loaded at Plaster city....donned hardhat and hi viz vest and walked into locomotives area...natch....took fotos..thanked the fellows as I walked out..nobody said ought...nice enough..



Three foot gauge....






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Nice Plaster City pics. I've driven all the way from the mill to the mine a few times, back in the '80s and '90s. Goes right through part of a target range used by Navy jets. Got to watch some of that action from probably closer than we should have been, one time. I still have a few of the 20mm machine gun shells that rained down on the trail a bit north of us.

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Nice pix Charley...

...that big-blue 3 footer...

...she looks FAST !

Cheers

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Ray , Si , Woodrow , fellers...

Yeah..fast trains..zoom zoom..that Gyp is gonna spoil...OR...them trucks is hauling that stuff outta there so fast the train can hardly keep up..?..

And..them mil guys are burning up the ammos...gotta keep them ammo builders working..

It is a big industry...some call it freedoms cost..others....dis agree...alot depending on where their bread is buttered...

BUT..that is politics isn't it...Oooop....

The house is getting souped up..i will be moving in toward end of month..currently in Longview Washington..man ..it is scary green up here...got a round trip load..un load and re load at the same place in Seattle-ish......pays good..I took it..

Visiting daughter and grand daughter..Portland zoo tomorrow..

Kylee seen making cup cakes...


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Will any be left by the time you get back?

You should share with us, you know--


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Herbie , Woodrow fellers..

Mmmmmuummphe ..whot cupcakes..,?...


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Woodrow , fellers..

Fotos of the Portland zoo rlys passenjare cars..sorta a side shot Woody..as requested...








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Nice Charley......  :thumb:
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Charley,
With all the train stops how are getting all the loads? Great photos, keep up the great show.

Thanks
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Ken , Monte , Woodrow , fellers..

There is a cost..fun being part of the pay...Excelsior motor freight has a good management team...moral being high on list..etc etc..

C....er ...El presidente ...

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Thanks for the views Charley. I love those neat park and zoo rides wherever they be. Dadgum it...I want some cupcakes now!

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Woodrow fellers..

We'll send you one..USPO overnight..becomes a seal a meal..

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ONE? I want a DOZEN!

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Nice pix Charley

Are you just photographing 'Blue' trains these days ?

The Blue open excursion-cars would look great behind the BIG-BLUE gypsum express...
...might need a re-gauge ?
Mmmm...?

Won't be able to make your movin' in party Charley...
...the round trip from London is 'a lota truckin' !!...
...save me a cup-cake though !

All the best

Cheers

Si.

(the mad Englishman)

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Charley,

You were just up the road from me, so you could have stopped and left some of the cup cakes.

The photos are great, how many more drives do you have?

monte

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Monte , Woodrow , fellers

Blue trains..cup cake eaters...good god man...not only a hobby...avocation , obsession....hunger...

moo ahhahaahahahah

Oh..and i have some more driving..probably a lifetime...still..although california smog laws are going to impact my world January 2014...

All that is in the future..I see trains..model trains..in my future...the one I care to think about..

Chols

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I guess only The Guvnor is permitted fat-ceeegars in downtown LA come 2014 then !

Cheers

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Charley,

Smog Laws, just think if we still has stream engines, CA would just be coming unglued.

Remember you could publish a book off all those cool photos you have, that is if you can remember the locations. I have been to some of those very same sites. So solve this problem I got a camera with a GPS system so they will get located no matter.

How is the layout coming?

Monte

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I can remember locations pretty well..I have filme pitchers in the thousands..log trucking all over the Sierra..

And earlier trucking fotos..and thousands from three years in Germany ..where  I learned to drive...in my own five ton dump truck...

Layout is still planning..house in hand..moving this week and next..


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Cha-Wee...I just wanted to say HOWDY from us Outlaws in Tejas and along the Gila Rim. How about building the layout and forget about the house. You can have more fun living in a tent with your layout than living in a house with NO layout. How bout' them apples? or cupcakes?

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Woodrow , Tejas outlarws , fellers..

Living inside thought attractive..the box under the bridge is wearing thin...leaving today for Beatty and the big move..it is a big big deal...

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Charley-I lived in a "box" under the trees behind Muj's home for seven years. Now that I own the house...I miss those cozy days in the motor home. Go figger!!!

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Woodrow ..fellers..

I am in ..slept first night last...stereo set up and playing old favs..no sounds to speak of for 17 months..limited TV...the little bastard outta the truck...VCR tapes.

Sound held at bay quite nice in this place...the highway 95 goes right through town ,stop turn left..at the Exchange club..this place is only one block of the main drag...didn't hear a thing...


Some of these trucks are exuberantly exhausted...not mine...all that noise wears a fellow out...

The book cases are in .... as is the heavy bed..necessaries are here...books in boxes and loose are dominating the place..makes a fellow think....about having all these books..I am quite proud of them..and enjoy them among the best in my life...

Fotos after books are in places...

Glad to hear of your moving "up"...although...I have fond memories when I lived in my school bus out on the ridge.Course time blurs the winter woodstove and the summer heat and the inconvenience of it all...

I say I was a high bottom drunk..I had a school bus to live in..moo hahahahaha

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Charley and others,

I have never lived in a bus, but have lived in a tank and tin shed. There were all types of noise out side. Some were good and well.

Soon you can send photos of the train room? I may do the same. keep it up and be safe.

Monte

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fellers..

I wanted to say ..I yet live..moving in is hard to do..old song etc etc..

Progress ..anyways..reports as something to shew is..

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C o o l . . . .

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Cha-wee...I guess that I "lived" in a bus (motor home) for about 7 years in Muj's back yard. Fighting off city "authorities" and such were a real pain. Now, I have a place for all my junk and the motor home is still full of my junk..as is the garage..and back yard. Sometimes, I miss the old "bus" life but at least now I can have buddies and a lady over and everybody can have room to move. Life is good...it took a while to get that way. As they say over there, "keep a stiff upper"..whatever that means.

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Woodrow , fellers..

I may yet make some shelving / workbench today...seems it was a hundred plus a bit..today. Inside reading now.it cools as the sun wanes.. the stage is set for wee trains..I move stuff from the tin shed and sort it inside . A long laborious process..thanks for the encouragement .

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H o t . . .

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Woodrow , Elminero , Herbie , Si , fellers..

A foto included of the 18 " gauge laid out for grins..this is not the ROW...but having track panels standing mutely in piles has led me to lay some out..just cause ...










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Well by gum, that there looks like progress to me!

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Looks like it !!!

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Big yard !

n i c e !

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" Hey, Hey, Charley's BACK ! ...
... I've got my pom-pom's all a flap ! " :rah:

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:cb: " Yer don't need to be a South-West cattle-barron ...

... to have a good layout " :mex:

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:java: table layout #1 ...



:Salute: " YESIR !!! ... Box-cars in ship-shape fashion ... YESTERDAY Sir !!! "

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:brill: " Can I run Gn15, & other 'wierd-scales' on that HO track ? "

:glad:" NO PROBLEM Albert ... !!! " (_!_)

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:bang:  " Darn 7/8ths stuff don't work proper ! "

:pop: " Anything good on TV ? "


:Crazy: " NO !! "

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All the best.

Cheers

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' Serves The South '

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Si , fellers..

I started a new thread in the HO section cannot post pitchers yet tho'..soon enough..

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Fellers..

Looks like I may be able to fly a pitcher through here..zoom zoom..testing..

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Boyo ,

I have been gone some long time..the winds of..ides...of..I read some of..the end of Woody's old thread..I shew a lokey under way..this to run on the 18" gauge in the "garden"..it is a very long story..I built a 1:35th layout..that is done..I am almost done re furbing a room for 1/2 n xx"...this wonter I expect to get something done there..for now..the catching up of the outside railway is needed shewn..to whit..I have apot of track from vegas amusement park railway..alot in place here now..the flat car re built and re gauged..a lokey under way ..things are on the up..i have a doggy..a very good dog...You cannot miss seeing her..she gets in alot of fotos..

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This is the view from the beach street end..this track runs north east .

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A shot of the Two switches I have in . the line is almost 400 feet of track to date..the whole place is on the up.My energy is up . have I said it..18" gauge..12 # rails.I have a pot of #8 and will use it on the front garden line. When I get to it.

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HOLY HAMMERTONE HORNBLOCKS !

IT'S CHAS !!

Damn it Charley, you had me worried ol' bean.

Thought you musta wandered off into the desert...

...with a hole in the darn canteen !

If it can happen to the U.S Cav. ...

...it could happen to the best of us, WHAT !

Anyhow, nuff chit chat & all that jazz.

STELLA BIT OF RAILROADING YER DEVIL !

Not sure if Unk is the biggest anymore !?

Great you got the pix.-postin' sorted...

...David Bailey WATCH OUT !

Need an update on the ol' 'small stuff' down Tidewater ways as well...

...when yer got a moment.

And that 1:35 jazz sounds pretty darn cool 2.

All the best.

Toodle pip & Tally ho for now.

Cheers.

Si.

P.S.

Looks like K9 wandered off...

...used a magnifying-glass on the pix. ...

...can't see the mutt anywhere !

We need a close-up portrait A.S.A.P !

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Si ,fellers...
I can't find the fotos I wants when i wants em..sad state of the state..Doggy in sight ...She is "Daisy"..middle name is doggy..

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I mentioned 1:35th..I made a little mining esque layout for "Beatty days"..the celebration of the railroad coming to town in 1906 , yer parade and etc..a day in the park..a pitcher.

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AND..the loading end..yer mine adit..

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Si , fellers..

and finally..the HO is cleaned up after six or more months of sitting in oxides..a job of cleaning I did not look for'ard to..switched loads , shippers were screaming..rates are up..moo ahhahaahah

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Charlie

I think that trucking is a good way to cultivate a crop of ulcers, while sitting on your butt.

But what do I know--

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Hiya Herbie...

I can post one foto per..which is probably good..keeps me from posting garbaishe'..

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Herbie fellers..

Todays progress on lokey "X"....

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Fellers..

The bell is just hung there with vise grips..I will make a mount and hang it just about there..ding ding..like a trolley..

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Fellers..

Hey , it is narrow gauge..huh...shewn moving blocks from the wreckage which is the garden..I have called er a debris field..the railway is helping big to clear the place..the wood yard is to heat the house..I probably have two more winters worth of wood..heats the joint...cleans the garden..I have a dumpster out to the far end of the line..railway used to haul out there..quite nice..I have moved 107 full size blocks to the new pile.and other size and shape of blocks too..Doggy "daisy" shewn.

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Hi Charley

Those shelves in the engine-house, look nearly as good as Chuck Doan's.

The rust & rivets on the motive-power almost looks real !!

It's all looking great dude !

Just one negative comment...

...the dogs pose isn't very natural looking...

...& you need to spray on more dullcoat.

Cheers.

Si.

P.S.

1:35 world looks FAB !

Being run by a bunch of 1940s Stalinist stoodges ! ... right ?

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Si , fellers..

Yes..Stalin and his henchmen..a good set of dudes for 1:35th..I made a set of gable bottom cars out of styrene for this line.I ahd to make drawbars for them to track around the tightest curve , 3.5 inch radius..and space the drawbar out enough so the corners wouldn't touch..!...I will include a foto of train "A"..Bullfrog mining co..

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Si , fellers..

Styrene is direct from god..another foto to show the wagons further along..

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Si , fellers..

I am trying to find a full train on the layout..

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Si , fellers..
Wish I could post several at a shot..

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Charlie-

You can post more than one if you load them into your Gallery first.

This assumes, of course that the combination of whiz-bang electronics you use lets you do that.

If not, well----------

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Hey-that looks like the "baby gauge" in Death Valley! Very neat.

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Woodrow , Herbie , fellers..

Herbie..you making fun of my computer..?..

Yes..the bullfrog railway is inspired by..freelance..yes ..quite a bit..

Hood put on the Beach street railway lokey today..

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Wow, what a great bunch of stuff!! Love that Ryan-esque "baby gauge" train, and the big ride-on lokey, tracks, etc. Nice looking dog too.

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Thanks Ray . Another foto

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Ray , fellers..

I Rummage through files of fotos..this is close to the end result..

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Hi Charley

My railroad will eventualy be run by 1940s communists as well !



You did inspire me a ways back, to check out this figure set.

By ICM called 'Stalin & Co' I seem to recall.

There are 'spare heads' without military caps.

Stalin has a 'serious' military head...

...but you can glue on his more cheerful 'weekend head' ?

Mmmm.

If there's any labour problems at the mine...

...theses guys management style is...

...just throw the trouble-makers down an old mine shaft !!

Cheers.

Si.

Yes, I 2nd Woodie, just like the ledges in the pix. of your desert explorations.

The layout looks great Charley !

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fellers..

Latest on lokey "X"...pretty close to being done..then it will be brought home.and put onto the railway.fotos of every gnats ...... as it happens..

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Lokey "X" is getting some paint..the controller is mounted..getting close to bringing er home to rails.yay

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Piling dunnage and a set of rails to down load locomotive . It is getting close to done and coming home .

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That yellow color is perfect! Really looks great.

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Ray , fellers..
Thanks..the colour is sorta mixed from a gallon I bought ..which I thought was too soft a yaller..this toned up a bit by mixing in a paint sample can and half another..like butterscotch ..the whole sample can..and half a kinda deep orange brown..never match it . But i can get close..and sorta close is OK in industrial "olive orchard" railways..ainna..?..olive orchards ..IN BEATTY..?...you say..wul..license ....and stretching of the whole reality thing..
Nice doggy foto ...railways and doggies ..how good is that..?..

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Lokey is near done..coming home tomorrow..

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Hi Charley

Mooset be a nice colour in the sun...

...hope the headlamp works for nite-ops. !

Could be midnight mooses on the mainline !

Cheers.

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OK...Mooses not a big problem here..burro's..probably..railway fenced..very proper..
Headlights are not wired in...made to burn 12 V..but they will be..that is a big part of the thing..imagine me with camera..lights burning in sunsetty light..dang it man..

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Si , feller.s..

The pitcher I wanted to post..the bell..un rung...in the forest..?..

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Do you propose to run express, or just local service?

Love the headlights  '25-'26 Chevy?

To the fence, and beyond!!


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Herbie , fellers..

Probably on direct competition with the Empire state express.....

Uuuum...she is home..runs slower in go back than go thither..a 'lectronic programing issue in the controller..we are hoping to get er programmed up at a go chair store.it is acceptable..but it would be better for making up time..on the four track main..:doh:

Very nice.she went down the 6% and back up pushing the yard...{ THE flat car..}..switches are smooth and fine..this is quite a thing..

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NICE WORK CHAS !

The yellow-peril invades Nevada !

That darn doggie o' yours just KNOWS where to pose for the camera.

All the best.

Cheers.

Si.

Next job...

...AERODYNAMICS !

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Si , fellers..

Doggy is posed..good doggy..sit stay..I tell her I am going to take a pitcher..she is a ham I think..

And a B n W pitcher of lokey "X"...

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Another with a guest driver...already...

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Beautiful!

So it's electrical, not gas powered?

What did the bell come off of?

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Ray , fellers..

Yes..it is electric wheelchair bits..24V motors 'lectronic controller.very clever..two batteries..

Bell is some found "garden " bell..sounds quite the trolley car..ding ding...

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fellers..

Should have a link to put in here for videos..short ones..but if you wanna watch then your KB's...these are KB's well spent if i may say ..

AND...headlights are taken apart..this to make them burn bright..in the night.I'm a poet now..?..

24 V charging system in place..off wheelchair two...it in pieces in shed..it had a nice 24 V / mains charger..now it is bolted into lokey battery box..cleverly disguised as a hood..

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Headlights expose'

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Ray , fellers...
A link as promised to a page with video and still of both the Bullfrog mining line and the Beach street railway / excelsior railway...joint line..shared trackages..?..run through motive powa..?..

https://docs.google.com/folderview?id=0BzizswYVUcgILXhuN3FWODVjajQ&usp=docslist_api

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More fotos of lokey "X"..

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And the dog gets in the picture again.

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Charley,

I am really enjoying this thread - thanks for posting all the photos! Look forward to the next update.

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Kieth , fellers..

I am trying to get a set of the building of the lokey into some file somewhere..?..then post the link here and peoples can look or not..at their own KB loading.risk..

More fotos of the lokey , I got headlight bits today..wire and the bayonet bulb fittings..switches coming into town with the 'lectronic dude..tuesday..

So at some point we'll get atmospheric headlight shots..

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Chris Beecham drives..

he , the 'lectronic dude..

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fellers..

I added just about every foto taken of the Excelsior railway...beach street line..into a album on google..blah blah something or other..

This should take you there is you are so inclined.

https://plus.google.com/photos/116435297026774258884/albums/6084927940001654065

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A commuter special sits at the end of the line..in fall colours..

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Using the railway for cleanup around here..a job of work..I had help getting the propane tank onto the flat car..rolled off quite handily..

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I added the lot of The 1:35th n 2' Bullfrog mining company layout building pitchers into a google page / album

A link ...

https://plus.google.com/photos/116435297026774258884/albums/6085105449252257665

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I made a pull rope for the bell..ding ding..

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Yep! - That'll work :)

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fellers.

The whole thing is simplicity itself..there is of course..some mild machine work involved..sizing the ID of the sprockets to fit the motor shafts...

We joke that the motor shafts are 47 / 52nds ..of an inch..really odd size.which was a trial and fit with the lathe..the keyways were not altered enough to need new keyways made..

Generally this is quite do-able..old motorized wheelchairs are a drug on the market..

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I have made the headlights work..just in from a "night train"..very neat thing..just ot see how it looked ..first night with the lights working..

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Another night time fotographers special...

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Cool!

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HOLLYWOOD BABY !

Looks like the backlot at M.G.M !

" Lights ... Camera ... ACTION ! "

I figure switching the Inglenook as nite-ops...

...avoids the Englishman at midday syndrome !

Hot stuff Charley !

I always wear a pith-helmet on visits to Vegas.

All the best.

Cheers.

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Si , fellers..

I take quite alot of fotos..a "hobby..?" of mine..they are all making it to the google foto sharing pages / albums I have set up..another foto which may be duplicate from that site..,.,?..

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" I take quite alot of fotos.. "

Thanks for pointing that out Charley...

...I never would have guessed.

Talking of which.

Just been scrutineering ol' David Bailey's portfolio of Bullfrog Mining 1:35nd (wink).

Totaly luv it Charley.

I see you had it on show at Beatty-fair, or something, nice.

Just 1 question; just for the curious.

I can never figure the size of things, even if I know the scale...

...but in a nutshell; how big is the layout's footprint ?

Cheers.

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Si , fellers..

It is 2' x 3' ..which begs some comment about metrical conversions..millimms or co-millim-nim-n-nims

And a reminder to those wondering..whot the ...?..there are some links about these models ,back in the thread a bit..

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No problem Charley.

I'm an ol' fart (so I'm told)...

...measuring in yards, feet, inches & thou.

Got nothing against M.M's though...

...the dark chocolate ones are my favorite !

That a lotta railroad for 3x2 !

*****

Cheers.

Si.

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fellers...

Raining in Beatty 0.28 inches today so far

Some track works under way..foto

This is #8 rail , It is easily bent by hand..between a couple of posts.

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:moose::moose::moose::moose::moose:

Mmmm...

Must be the doggie's day off !

Keep up the good work Charlie.

Cheers.

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fellers..rain in Beatty..no gullies warshed..but rain it is..

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Charley:

The rain just washes off the dust - that way, you don't have to spend hours this weekend polishing and waxing the loco :-)

I like the look of the locomotive, and the network of track you are working on.

Thanks for posting the photos.

Keith

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Keith,fellers..

The paint has had some changes since the rains began..the rust comes through...I suspected it would..I want the lokey to make peoples wonder..is it real..or is it..remember that..?..the end plates on the flatcar were painted about about 10 + years ago..the rust came back on that bit quite slower. I re painted the wooden bits this summer when i rebuilt and re gauged er..I have more paint for the lokey ..if the need is felt.

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The rain has abated ..wet ties take spikes very nice..wet ground holds the ties up for spiking well..the front garden curve progresses..this bit is done..uum except for the burying..A foto of the lokey and flat car on test..

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Filled in ballast.{ dirt }..

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Fellers..blah blah..foto

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Really cool Charley, and that photo hog ...... the dog lol

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Dennis fellers..

The dog is posed...she seems to understand the "I'm gonna take a pitcher"...If I get on the train..she goes too..funny thing..railway dog..I am including a pitcher of wood / rubble gathering for wood heating the manse...clean the place ..and heat..same time..great thing..

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Hi Charley.

I guess you've found the wiring easy, like Woody; without track-power.

No knuckle-couplers or Kadee 'grease-em' to mess with.

AND darn it ! ...

...You've saved a fortune on foam-board...

...by just spiking it straight on to Nevada !!

Cheers.

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Si , fellers..

More track laid in today..this makes a 90 * turn..a bit more snaking around to get over to beach street...

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Jees !

Those Chinamen are swingin' those spike hammers like they mean it !!

Nevada aint gonna be big enough for the Beach St. R.R. !

Utah ! ... Here we come baby !

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You should take over the ol Tonopah & Tidewater grade and keep laying track until you get to Goldfield!

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YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA !!!

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I love the look of this little line! Makes me wish I had more rail to do something like this at my place.
Great Work!!!

Murphy J.

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Murph , Si.El minero, fellers..

Thanks..it can be done in model form..this is about the funnest thing I can think of..really has my enthusiasm up..

this curved bit is used as it came..I was going to have curve , straight , curve..but I thought it might be nice to have it curve around easy..

It looks very nice..If I may say so...

This #8 rail came from Sonca's apple ranch near SOnora cal..some years ago..I lifted three ton as they were abandoning the railway . This is whot I have left..sold a ton here and there..I have enough to finish this line..

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Hi Charley.

Have you tried checking the railroad on 'Google-Earth'.

I can see all kinds of stuff in my back-yard on it !

Bit lo-res, but a free 'chopper ride' nevertheless.

Didn't have that back in the ol' miner49er days !

Cheers.

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Doggie's back supervising I see.

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For a minute there I thought we had a problem, two photo's and NO DOG! Concerned that there had been a fatality around the corner? But now all is well there he is!
Jelous you have the space.
Dennis:wave::wave::wave::wave:

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Dennis, Si , fellers..

Wul , don't be jealous..enjoy it vicarious...

I had 120' of track in Sparks...when I lived there..even that was quite a bit of fun..I enjoyed looking at the rails just standing mutely...

This epoch is the better for more room..and a lokey having been built..it feels quite a bit like a real railway..clunk and bang..squeal of flanges on the curves..

I have been gathering iron for fifteen years or so..I was looking for railway bits before that..

The room is had by moving..I finally left the wife after way too many years of hanging in. She called my iron railway bits "junk"..dumb ........x....

So I pay a price by living quite a ways off the beaten track. I do not regret .I see little news..do not know whot is going on in the outer world..suits me fine..when I go to the bog city shopping . I get plenty taste of the rat race..I have pretty much dropped out..

I hope you guys get some motivation to build some models..or the real deal..as you can..quite a bit of fun can be had with a lokey , some cars to bat around..and a bit of a layout..this whole place in half inch scale..is really really small..I figgered it in inches....not much of a layout..really..

AND..doggy ....looking for loose spikes.

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@charley
It puzzles me a bit - are you referring to or pictures? Anyway, outdoor railroading requires a lot of different fluids to go...

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Really cool having your own little railroad!

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Helmut , Ray , fellers..

Pitchers of trains..very like good german beir....

And..I am very amazed at the progress of this whole thing..i have been plotting some time to have a railway..I did in Sparks , Neavada ...last life..this is that much better..another foto..a pitcher ..of trains..:Crazy:

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Another photograph...:old dude:

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fellers..

This odd angle..shows the walkway ..made in stones..a grade crossing is done..wood and fill in the morning..I will probably be finished with this branch by tomorrow close..of biz..bidness..?..the fire hydrant is garden/ yard arte...

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I have made the end of the branch line..yay...

Some cleaning up and re organizing of the place..

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...blah blah..

track in but not buried ...

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The crossing of the line is finished..boards and stones . I am happy with the look of er.

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ACE !

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Hi Charley,

Cool railroad. I like the look of the crossing as well.

Alwin

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Alwin, Charley is 'the king of COOL '...

...the Steve McQueen of Beatty !

Wait till you see him chase the bad-guys in 'the yellow peril'...

...HIGH OCTANE BABY !

Cheers.

Si.

P.S.

Evil Bond-baddies have industrial railroads...

...check out Christopher Walken's !

BAD !

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Si , Alwin , fellers..

Uuum..ah shucks..

Nice that you speak well of a feller..

The railway is the coolest thing..I can think of..

It once again needs time to sink in..I built it in a frenzy sorta ...now it is time to look and think about it..

I use it to haul stuff..,this place was / is a debris field..I am hauling scrap wood into " the sawmilll"...and reducing it for the woodstove..cleaning up and staying warm all in one..very nice.

A working railway..I am up to having 537' ish feet of track.. this becomes quite ueable.most areas are close enough to the tracks to be of use..

Charley , Charley Excelsior ..on a mission..

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The wood yard,...

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" I use it to haul stuff "


Exactly what Christopher Walken said in 'View To A Kill' !

But what exactly was Max Zorin, psychopathic microchip-industrialist REALY up to !?

I think the Feds need to tap Charley's vacuum-tube-computer...

...just to make sure he's not tunneling under Beatty...

...with a fiendish plan, to bring Microsoft(TM) to it's knees !

All the best ol' bean.

Cheereo.

James Bond.

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Si , fellers..

I happen to know that Chris.."his friends call him Chris"..is a railfan..

He was building a wee railway till some Brit spy came along and blew up his plans..isn't it..mighta been a Welsh spy...Named "hugh.."?...spy hugh..we used to call him..!...

Oh..and the feds are onto me..they monitor the buying of Vacuum tubes..cought me right out..\

But I have a new tin foil hat..whcih dis allows transmissions of tube buying extravaganza's..

Evil laughter into the night..into the tunnels batman..quick..the joker is on our tails..er ..is that a different set..?..whot is that chicago gangster doing in here..and hey ..is that tommy gun loaded..dammit man..

And ..as far as Bill goes..he is onto me too..he having a tin foil hat regeniterative transister set..he can read my thougths..and knows the carnage I plan unot his computer world..I am like this ahcker dude..and I can do that..my tubes crossed with their wires..it'll be sparks..fer days..the western worlds power grid.on the fritz...speaking of fritz......;)

Moving a Kansas fencepost..by rail..

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Hi Charley.

You might wanna think about a guard-rail out front.

The Excelsior could cause a bit of rubber-neckin' on the highway !

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Si , fellers..

They don't stop for the stop sign..L:

A long standing beatty tradition..the railway has gained some noteriety...

It might make the newspaper..the beatty times hearald..?..hearst..murdoch ..turner..?..

CHolly:doh:

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HOLD THE FRONT PAGE !

It's Awesome Wells.

" He's a Mogul Jim, but not as we know it "

:doh::doh::doh:

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Gee whiz...and to imagine that this is all 1/2" scale!! Chawee, you is amazin'.....

Beaudreaux

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Boodrowe,Si , fellers.

Wul..uuum..ah..see it is like this..

Ya see..or ,er ,...

It all started back in April , mighta been march..taking down the rabbit warren..junk collection of wires , fiberglass, chicken coop ..and stuff..{ !}..:bg:

Then I started laying down the #12 panel track...to see how it would look...ya see...:)

Wul..those switches..needed moved inside the wire...and sorted..

And then before Si could say...Aye mate..I had a railraod..ten fo..see them railroaders roll..

Then peoples started saying I needed a lokey..I perused a roto tiller here in town..{ the beatty mall}..spendy down there ta the mall..

So the idear as a seedling..the 'lectric wheelchairs just sitting un loved..in the scrap dudes place up end of beach street..for $25 one was had..

This made work by the 'lectronical wizard of area 51...genetics not specified..you don't need to know..etc..etc..

Then ace fabricator from the nut house , afternoon koffee klatch needed a project..and who am I to stand in the way..I asks ya.

:old dude:

SO , nine weeks later..the lokey comes home for raod tests..exceeding expectations..we posited that a wheelchair rated for a possible 500# hominiod gentic strain..type..might in fact pull a lokey and maybe a peron...

We haven't tested the limit of the lokey yet..it spun er drivers trying to pull flat through the experiemtental curve laid..quite sharp..and rather un even..

This is quite a thing..to have fallen into..it is like god is working in the ways of man..man plans ..god laughs..anyway,...

SO , the #8 rail..it could possibly be bent by the hand of man..?..one asks..and indeed...it is and I did..dug up the ROW laid ties..bent rails..spiked em in..dang nice..

I had lurid fantasy about tracks in the front garden..and now ..that fantasy made real...dang it man..

BUT..uuum..the half inch is laid wait..I have a bit of sheetrock work in the room allocated to layout

It got cold last night..rained two days running..it becomes inside modelling weather..

AND..my enthusisam is running quite high..sorta ....imagine having laid some real #8 rails..and then coming inside and building models of er..seems a full circle deal..que the tabernacle chior..fer sure..halo's..n rainbows..butterflies..birds tweeting..
:doh:

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Chas , fellers..

Is the old dude saying ought about moose turd pie..?..

I hauled wood for the manse heating system..from the wood yard to the sawrmill...

Very useful rig..

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Chas , woodrowe , Si ...fellers..

Yes indeed ..moose turds are increasing in size and duration..and the old guy digs it..?..

:cool:

More wood lot..

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Si , Woodrowe , Chasv , Herbie ..fellers..Ray....

Moo ahahahahaha ..boy is outta control..call in the sharp stuff dudes with the tranks..yer thunder ..yer halozones..

Halusantions..

Dammit man..you see that shit..?..

OR...another fotos..cause i dig it..woodlot line..working a day thing..

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take that..and that...boom boom...sawrmill shewn..

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Fellers..

Calm has returned..it was a fun journey whilst it lasted..

Ate alot of cookies at the town advisory board meeting tonight..yeah..the cookies made me do it..tell em' Boodrowe..

And finally , close of bidness...the lokey parked out front..where I can see er , standing mutely out the front winder..

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Nice collection of rail segments, there.

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... " and the switch-stand don't work, cos the vandals broke the handle "

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Helmut , Si , fellers..

The switch stands are both bent beyond repair..one ranned over by a danged old train..the other / short one whose vertical shaft is just bent in the middle , probably crunched by something big and heavy..?..no way..you say..

And yay..I have a good collection of rail sizes up to about 90 pound...or so..even a bit of the one inch steel stuff the ride on guys use...cute..it is..good eye.

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" probably crunched by something big and heavy..? "

Yep.

That'll do it !

Si.

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Might have been taken out by the Roswell crash, back in the '40s.

Dumb-ass aliens thought the target was the landing-light.

Not a scratch on their intergalactic titanium-alloy though.


If Uri Geller ever visits the railroad; he might be able to fix 'em for yer.

Could help you with any tight radius track as well.


Just don't serve the sugar-lumps with the best silverware.

Save some of the McDonalds coffee-stirrers for such guests.


White with 2 cubes & cookies please.


Cheers.

Si.

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Si , fellers..

Cookies don't last long around here..AND..givin the antics of your scribe last eve,,cookies may be thought best avoided ......or hoarded...

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Too much sugar !

My Grandma used to make a lotta cookies.

If you realy looked hard, you could see a tiny trace of flour in the sugar.

About 1% I'd say !

Oh well the Excelsior R.R needs dog-biscuits...

...keep the supervisor happy !

Hope they got a good doggie dentist in downtown Beatty.

Cheers.

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Si , fellers..

Thing is..most peoples don't get the scale of things out here..It is 75 miles to the nearest dentist..this the county seat on one end..the other county offices are 95 miles north..and the county of NYE goes on past that...quite a bit..

Seems Nye county is larger than ten of our states...although probably not texas...And since my friend Boodrowe is in tejas..I won't cast aspersions on the size , relative to Alaska..

Kinda got it in there anyways didn't I...?..:cb:I am going to Texas for christmas..my daughter moved to tejas..west..nine or ten hundred miles from Woodrowe.?

Ran the railway a bit today..supposed to rain tonight and tomorrow..some chance.s.rained a bit last night..covered up lokey "X"..I think he is named "Oliver" been colder last few days..winter may have arrived..

Early pitcher of the Beach street railway..

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Oh good golly...gee whiz..gee willikers..shuckers..

The local newspaper..did a story on the Beach street railway..a link to the article..included..there are three pitchers...ya have to click the 1-2 -3 bits..

http://pvtimes.com/sections/community

How about that..fame and surely fortune , isn't far behind..

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Congrats! Very nice article.

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Ray , fellers..

Thanks..I was / am all giddy ...proud..the feller did a fine job..amazing..I had little hope..

Ran another wood lot job today..dangit ..using the wee railway to haul wood..it does it pretty well too..

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fellers...

AND then..I did the headlight study last night ...

Hauling trash out to the end of the line and the dempsy dumsterio..yay..

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@Charley
Is your drive a self-contained unit complete wirh controller or did you kitbash it? 24V, I assume?

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Helmut ,fellers..

It is "almost " as factory...to the motor output shaft..then chain and sprocket..the contoller { joy stick} has had it 's steering removed..

Two coils , one each side of joystick , coils to sense proximity to the stick..to make steering.These removed..and diodes put in their place to "fool" the great comuter into thinking they exist yet..

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Hi Charley.

Watch out for 'leaves on the line' !

On British-Rail...

...this translates as...

...you're F@$&%D!

A leaf brings an empire to it's knees.

Si.

Sand-pipes ?

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Si , fellers..

Oh , that is funny..I really like to hear the slang stuff..whot..I have great interest in peoples..from all over..I wonder , whot they wonder...sometimes i wander..about...wondering..:dope:

Shewn hauling a barrel of radioactive..iso topes..or..ropa dopes..?..just fer grins..headlights..whot headlights..the load glows sir..sir yessir..get that outta here..:Salute:

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'Edge Of Darkness ' ...

(no NOT the Mel Gibson poop)

...'II' the re-make.

Classic BBC-TV drama, remade in Nevada !

Photo #551 looks like a VAMPIRE MOVIE !

Cheers.

Si.

I'm tellin' yer Charley ...

... M.G.M gonna be hammering at the door soon ...

... what with the recent media saturation and all !

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fellers..

A perfect example of a Mancha little trammer seen..and foto'd...so there..merry christmas , all ya 'all..

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Quality oxide !

Si.

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Why does it have a steering wheel?

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Looks like the rheostat handle, although there seems to be another one in classical shape atop of the resistors' housing. Second guess: brake wheel.

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Elminerio, Helmut , Si , fellers...

I bet the Mancah trammer could be found on line with full arrows and glossy fotographs..describing using the steering wheels and brake...systems..anybody see the full sanding gear...

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HOLY COW !

Is that muther a BIG kinda AA-cell on wheels ?

I guess the model & 1:1 aint too different ?

R/C Li-Ion Lead-acid etc.

24v if yer crusin' Beatty way !

HIGH VOLTAGE R.R. ! (says Angus !)

Seasons Greetings to yer railroad fans.

Cheers.

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Interesting… never seen a mine tram with sanders before.

And you're right, there's a lot of info online about these little trams. Now I know why the end looks like it's designed to swing up -- they could fold it to fit the tram onto a lift.

http://industrialrail.5u.com/photo_8.html


Here's a page showing the process of restoring one:

http://industrialrail.5u.com/manchatrammer.html
http://industrialrail.5u.com/manchatrammerpage2.html

And here are some neat pics of a Gn15" model:

http://gn15.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1489

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That Greenbat ... NICE RIDE !

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fellers...

A foto..my holiday experiences are by deisgn , low stress...hopefully your holidays are as good as they can be..

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Charlie, I started at the other end of the thread and figured I better move to this end to see the latest. Are you in Beatty now? I got confused by the early posts that said something about California. I haven't been in Beatty for a LONG time and probably won't get down to see your layout... darn it. I'm about as far from you as I could be and still be in Nevada. I do enjoy your posts... Please post pictures sometime.

:bg:

I started modeling a Mancha Trammer for my Little Mine layout and ended up with a freelance trammer made out of the case from a wall wart. No need for folding at this mine, it has no hoist.

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fellers..

I search for yet another fotos..I have a full pot of them..choosing is such a great struggle..I lay awake at night..gnashing teeth..wringing of hands..

SO..here is another..

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Herb Kephart wrote: Charlie

I keep going back and looking at those rivets. They look so real that I'm going to ask you to do a step by step of how you did them.



The military model people have it all over us when it comes to realism IMO


Herb 


 
Yeah, they do..... I bought an assortment of resin rivets, bolt heads etc off eBay they were cheap as chips made in russia... Cant find the listing now that I want them....

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Trev, Herbie , fellers..

I wrote abit about using the cheaper....er ..er..Uuum...inexpensive paints..the apple barrel brand..at yer wally world..is good " material"..

It is not so good as paint...for us trying for rusting-ish...the rather bolder colours..can be mixed with water to suit..then "flowed " into the lines around raised or lowered bits.."meniscus"...surface tension of water..!..

In fact..using a water spray bottle to "wet" a model { using yer "wet "water../ drop of liquid soap }then plopping straight strength paints..will usually have the pigment crazing.../ ..styrating..place the objet' de arte under a light bulb to let er dry faster..not so close to melt yer model..observe effects..

Try this on a bit of plasticard..

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fellers...

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fellers..

I enjoy seeing pitchers of light railways...not many around anymore..the push car lines in Taiwan..the Hennequin plantation remains in Yucatan..dang it man...

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Fellers..


This is a series of artsy fartsy shots..

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fellers..more more ..always more..

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fellers ,

Light rails as arte...

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Great stuff, Charley!

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Ray , fellers..
We are pretty thin on extraq NG stuff in this life..could be a product of being born in a time with "too much food"..gotta keep that in perspective..Taiwan in the golden age of pushcars may have been rather a tougher gig...

I'd like to see models built..railways built...foto's shared..entusisam built upon...AND....enough food..this late season is one of "too much" food..dang it man..I suffer so...

Cool track gauge came with the Brookville and that first venture into "the real deal"...Dave Spoer sold me that first bit..Brook Rother hauled it over the hill..the start of the final frontier.."spaced out"...moo hahahahah

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A foto taken near Superior Arizonia..neat lokey...properly weathered .

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Did you load it up and take it home Charley? lol

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Dennis , fellers..

I am sure it would be rather heavy..even the two of us couldna lift er..AND..then..there is some issues of mechanical uuum..age...nice garden arte..but...

Along the road through here are three lokeys in plain sight..This is in Miami..?..

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fellers..

And finally...the third lokey along the road..down there in arizonia...I hope some enthusisam is gained..yay enthusiasm..fairly ugly..but there it is..

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fellers..

Today we did a hike I have been wanting to do. Quite an epic journey . Well worth the effort methinks.

Here is a link to a foto album on google fotos page . As "Big Bell" mine album..

if you like mining stuff...this is very good..quite the day out..

https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/116435297026774258884/albums

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I love those little mining lowkeys! Wish there were some preserved near were I live.

Murph

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Murph , fellers..


Modelling ..in a model railway..a feller can have whot ever he wants..w/o the hauling of steel..Bachmans side rod dizzle..a new body...wham bam..a two footer..just like that...

Or the garden scales..16 mil is a nice one..two foot on gauge ought..parts , wheels from england..a e mail click away today..or the 1:20.3 ..I used 15 mil...45 mil track / 3'...equals 15 mil scale..then the gauge ought , as it is 1.25 " is .. is whot..probably quite close to the Welsh 2'3" and a thumb gauge...

The world is yer oyster ...I once thought I made that up..but some wag got on google and corrected ...it was some english dude...wrote plays .,.or somat..?..

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I REALLY need to get to the Big Bell mine one of these days!

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Ray , fellers..

It is right up your alley......Plans maybe need made..?..Course...too many peoples find er...it becomes..less cool...Uuuuum..wul.....maybe not...:slow:

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From what I've heard from one other person who has been there, it's really not easy to find and get to. Which is probably why there is still so much great stuff there.

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Ray , fellers..

Yup...on both counts..it can be found easier today than previous.the googling of earth..and etc...If a person goes to Chloride city..and schlepps around..it can be seen from far far above..looks huge and far away , away ,down there..but it is not so huge and not so far..as a relative thing.

It is within the park boundary..so I imagine a park ranger standing at top when some huge labour of hauling iron is almost done..with a scowl...and...probably a park ranger death gun ...they would not be so happy..I would dread the feelings of the authorities....

There is so much there precisely..because it is far , far removed ..from far , far removed..I say this of Beatty...this is still boondocks..and this area is somewhot off the beaten pathe...here..and it is a moderate long pathe..from here..

In this day and age..it is hard to find lonely places..we get toursits for the valley...this place thrives on their trade..wlecome them..I know when i go out to metropolia ..and I have in my big truck..gone all over the western half of the US in depth..it is a zoo out there..and in short..that is why i am here..it is a bit too quiet here..but I remind myself ..that is whot I bargained for..

I include a pitcher of Strozzi ranch , there are decendants of strozzi living here in beatty yet..this is about 7000 ' in the grapevines..{mountains}..about fifteen aire miles from Beatty..about 35 by auto..it is also in Death valley national monument.

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Thanks for the detailed pictures Charley. I like the raise water tank too. I have two of those, a bit different than that one, but same purpose.



looks like your buddy had a good time too. ;)

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Ken , fellers..

I don't know whot a raise water tank is..whots er used fer..etc etc..?..kinda neat tank as far as I saw it.

Would you 'esplain it..?..

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A bit of pot stirring ..working on the engine house track..a 30' bit of #12 rails..nice stuff..foundations for engine house in planning stages..earth work and rails can be done whilst the planning commision ponders..

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Rolled the first wheels onto the engine house lead...progress..

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Ken , fellers..

I don't know whot a raise water tank is..whots er used fer..etc etc..?..kinda neat tank as far as I saw it.

Would you 'esplain it..?..


Charlie, It is a water tank normally used in a raise (an upside down shaft). Water pressure was difficult to maintain up in the working area so they would use the 'raise tank'. It is filled with water and pressurized with air. That way they have drill water available at any height above the pump. They had to lug that monster up the raise to use it too. Mine are riveted and have slightly different handles.

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Ken , fellers..

Oh..yeah..I get it..thanks..a neat thing..I understand all the raise / winze things..shusher..blah blah..but that one is / was new to me..nice infos..thanks

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fellers..Beaudreau , Elminero..

Some working over of the half inch stuff..the room is ready..the bench work { first inst}..is ready..I have laid some track and am tuning up the rolling stocks . These have never had a place to run..this is all progress , and motivating..

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foto two

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Top trackage Charley !

Can't wait to see what yer doooooon.

Done some 1/2 myself, nice size for industrial stuff.

Cheers.

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So is the track HO gauge? Did you make the switch yourself?

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Si , Ray , fellers..

1/2 " gauge..but not 0n3' track standards..I use "O" scale wheels..athern plastic..drills em out to have feldbahnish holes..the track is hand made..kinda feeling my way through agian..

The second switch and ground throw are better.., I need go back and tune up the first now..but it is fun..and I am enthusiastic about it.

I went on a mine tour yesterday in teh Tecopa area..I am cross posting on another list as I am on that one too.so be it..link to my google albums page..

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fellers..

Added some grass to the mix..sorta pre mature to do it now..but I felt the urge..

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Don't matter which way you do, just have fun. I always have the urge and do something before I should when modelling.

Looks good, nice point work as well.

Cheers Dan

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Shoulders , fellers.

I am feeling much better about building models.It is fun.., it should be fun..for a long time I had trouble getting started , then being patient in the process , the journey instead of the destination.Switch / point "A" re built this morning painting before letting the grass grow..

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Woodrow..fellers..

A foto taken this morning..just to shew the rear buffer . The layout is coming along..no real place to fully pose a foto w/o the thing being exposed to the wall paper..or some construction debirs..so there it is..semi atmospherical..

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Very nice!

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I like it Charley!

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Nice pix. Charley.

Si.

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Ray , Ken , Si , fellers..

It is coming along..I managed to get the train , two cars and lokey around the corner reliably..the usual ..track gauge , wheels BTB..and coupling faces.., uniform car weights..

This is big progress , cause if it don't run..blah bleche'...

I turns on the little sound system..a lister two cyl engine funky sound..ITT products....google it..

Lokey idles.., runs along..putta putta putty...not quite the on board stuff ..but it is effective..and you'll never go back..to silence..

I am re building the Deptfor-ish wagon to a flat ..bulkhead cars a fav of mine..so i want to have a string of them to haul cordwood ..or pulp..vision is rounds ..four feet long cross wise on the wagons..

Hauled to the pier for trans loading onto boats.canal boats..small boats of character..?.

Cracks filled in..grass sown / grown over filler..

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FInished the flat part of the Deptford-ish car..

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Uuuum..foto

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I see the couplings I need for my new loco. Nice stuff Charley. Oh, thanks for the link to the sound page too, I saved all those noises.

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Ken , fellers..

These are not quite prototypical..although I ahve seen this sort of thing..with real trains and real wieghts..a three link chain coupling won't derail the thing..in this size..the chain in the middle will..so these are fine ..work quite well..

I painted some figgers today..carved some too..re configuring..this foto is good for today..more tomorrow..

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Charlie, did you make the figures or buy them? I like those guys.

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Ken , fellers..

These are SLM figgers..I probably would take quite a bit of time to make something quite as good..Arte school..years of scultping.nude models..?...:apl:....or ....er ...uuum...bought in..I'd rather make scenes..with wee trens in them..

I think you could google these..SLM..whomever it is makes quite a few differing scales..SLM makes... really... quite good figgers...

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fellers , Boodroowe

Engineer dude reported back ..from the beach,..?..

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hmmm... I replied earlier. anyway, I found the figure site, thanks Charlie!

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Fab figs Chas. !

No card carrying 'party members' amongst this lot by the looks.

As Amereeeeeecan as apple pie !!!

Cheers

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Si , Ken , fellers..

Card carryin Repubs or Demsocrats..?...or red flag carrying masses..?..

My political comment is.." they do not seem much different "..seems party power is coming before the good of the people..that angers me..

BUT..hey..this figger is not worried about that sort of stuff..he has green hair..whot pray could he worry about..I asks ya..

This fellow was the striding miner type..offered by SLM..I made him into a stationary standing type..and cut that goofy hat off his haid..made him into a hairy feller....Squadron green is good stuff...

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fellers..

Some progress on railway..the dock / pier { Quay / spelled Key }...is got some stones along the face..

And a bit of track off the rear switch ...

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I like that scene Charley. You work fast! That guy up there with the green head needs to wash his hair. Seems to be growing moss in it or something.

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Ken , fellers..

I am keeping busy..This stuff feeds on itself. I was kinda off it today..I painted some figgers this eve..they need dry brushed yet..blends them together..the dude with green hair is still drying..tomorrow..he'll get his..Like Cagney..Eeeehhmmmmmmm,..,,,,

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Like the pickup truck Charley.

Squadron-green...

...great for that punk-rocker look !

Nice scene in the pix.

Cheers.

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Si , fellers..

I have de punked rocked dude with green hair..he is now all growed up..as track inspector..shewn here with management looking on.."Daisy" standing by..

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Looks like he's satisfied with the ground-throw & points.

The new Vidal Sasoon is pretty 'low key'.

Cheers.

Si.

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Si , fellers...

Which one is Vidal , anyways...

Here is a shot I like..

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Much better hair day I see.

I really like that loco, all business... neat one. Picture saved for reference.

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Ken Chas Fellers...

"Valhalla"..A bit of a brute..a full 8 feet long and five feet.wide..a bit wide..I think..but I am growing to like him....

I never made a place for him to run...except a display test track..to use spikes on every tie and etc ....back then..this line ..uuuum..the ties are buried.yeah.that is it..they are buried..

I have been wanting to do indoor 18" guage for a long time..finding the right scale and gauge is / was hard..I like batteries powa..

I have a sound chip under table..start engine..on lokey..run lokey..it is that funcky lister sound..by ITT sound..a great putta putta..thing..

This is so the tracks can be rusty.. ..course..in fairness..all things model are givin away ....nothing is perfect..and this has drarwbacks too..butI very much enjoy the scene..and it only gets batter as more is done..and a back ground for fotos becomes un sullied by walls..table top..blah blah..etc etc..


This foto has stones and brick holding down wet glue..so ignore those..there is planned to be buildings in those spots..to block the view..the tracks are planned to go under an archway..into the grass..this "front" will block the view of the whole when one walks in the door..

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Charley wrote:
BUT..hey..this figger is not worried about that sort of stuff..he has green hair..whot pray could he worry about...
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Aphids? ;)

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Ray , fellers..

So , he is all de loused..painted a nice shade of miner long johns red..suspenders..doe skin boots..a stylish miner..or one who bought some boots before losing his latest strike in the gin mill..

A foto of the extension tracks going in..train run to end of rails..

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Never thought I'd see Stonehenge on an NG layout.

What kinda hair do druids have ?

Def. fancey mining attire !

As ZZ Top said...

...'wimmin got crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man !'

Now for a GIANT Texas beard on the engineer !?

Nice scene Charley.

Cheers.

Si.

(I got a 1/2" scale Fender 'Strat' if yer interested !)

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Si , fellers..

Stone henge removed by the historic accuracy commission ....the druids complained...Romans said it was pre ..or post..moderism - ist..disabilities access limited..cow sightlines distirbed..milking off ...

BUT... a headlight at end of tunnel...the switch hereafter switch "C" ..is finished..making running round a train possible..switchin is being done...

Olive oil ...er ..Distillate tanker...switched into train..promptly found out it needed weighed up to standards..we have standards..track standards being the most important..and wheelies Back to backs..

this makes for things running better than hoped for..I pushed four wagons through the five inch radius curve onto dock..{ spelled Quay..}...reliably..I was wondering about that little detail...

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Hi Charley,

Your olive oil tanker is on my list of projects to copy.

I think that it needs to be named:

CHARLIE LICKS OLIVE OIL

What do you think??

Ron Knepp

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Ron , fellers..

I have a slight larger one...Excelsior Olive..."excelsior" being the name of everything I do...in some form or another..

I intend to make more..this one already polluted by Distillate..I should make a pattern for the tank..and cast em in resin..weight and a tank..rather easier to make..

The next tanks may be lower in section..more like the westside lbr # 5 which is the genetic design of this one..a bit off but the idear thus..

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fellers..

Landscaping crew came and gone..they work fast..foto shews the thing after the spring rains..all warm and fuzzy..

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" Everybody knew Grandaddy round here...

...only went to town 'bout twice a year.

Bought 100 LB of yeast and some copper line...

...everybody knew that he made moonshine "

Top tank Charley !

Westside in the hall of mirrors, minus a few wheelies.

NICE !

I figured I seem that shape some wheres or tother !?

Si.

(words from Southern gent. with medium sized beard)

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Si , fellers..

I have put Beel Wilsone's halvinch cars onto my little layout..these are very nice models..the tippers are cut down 16 mil scale vers..the gable bottoms are scratch built..there are reputed to come from the scrappers yard on Wazoo..

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Charley:

Wonderful modeling work! Like the atmosphere of buried ties, quaint rolling stock, and a brutish-looking locos. The tank car model was very fun to see - I like the proportions. Looking forward to future installments!

Keith

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Charley, do you have any more info on that big loco build? I did a search and didn't find... I really like that one.

I took pictures and measurements of a C S Card side tip ore car today. It is right next to my house. Quite convenient. I'll try to get the sketch uploaded in a few days and the pictures.

I would like to build 3 or 4 of these. I think they may have come from Ely or ? They were given to a friend by the Elko Museum for display up here. I can get any more measurements or pics if anyone wants them.

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Ken , fellers...

I have foto of the building . I think I have fotos of the building.I built it before 2001..? .....He was in the contest at the Salt lake NG convention that year..

I'll look around for fotos..on zip drives..I mean..

Nice shots of the side dumpers..thanks for sharing them..

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Ken , fellers..

I have found a pot of pitchers..included are all I have of building this lokey..and the passenjare car .They are shewn on this google albums page..under the builders fotos of 1/2 " n 18"..

I have alot of fotos ..and I am going to be putting them on this page.

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Great 'lil tippers Charley.

I seem to to recall a 'rusting session' of yers a way back.

Were the 'slough potato rly' the same design of Beels ?

Rockin' rivets, them cars !

Cheers.

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Si ,fellers..

The rusting tippers front of this thread are Out line models ,in 7/8 ths scale.I have added more fotos to the albums..speedering and bicycle riding..

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Thanks Charley!
Here is my album of pics of the ore cars. I'll work on the sketch with the measurements. It matches the seven foot model on the catalog page, 14" wheels and all.

http://s77.photobucket.com/user/NevadaBlue/library/Nevada/Card%20Ore%20Car%20Info?sort=3&page=1

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Ken , fellers..

Thanks for sharing the fotos..good..

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Nice models Charley. And I see the dog is back again :2t:.

Alwin

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Yeah...

...salt, vinegar & iron-oxide on the chips please.

Cheers.

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fellers..

I am building a new set of drivers for the lokey " Mizpah"...a foto shewn of rawr materials..one wheels in machined since this foto..you can one of the very clever little gearhead motors. sprockets and wheels.This all for 1/8th rod axles.Found a nice small battery pack..these will allow quite a small lokey to be built.The next one planned is a trammer..ASAP..."as small as possible"..moo hahhahahah

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Those little gear motors are amazing. I want to build a hand car with one. I got 5 of them for 20 bucks a while back.

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Ken , fellers..

Yes , I have not had one is service yet..long term results not in yet..:old dude:I think they are fine little motors..The batteries pack may be a dud...nice , very small packs..these weren't available when i built this stuff..

I have bored and turned the flanges / treads on the wheelies.ready for assembly into wheelsets.

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Charley, if you don't mind, what kind of lathe (I guess you are using a lathe) and setup do you use to turn the wheels? I would like to see the setup if you have a picture. or, maybe next time you do some wheels...

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Charley, I just saw you guys had an earthquake fairly close... you still standing? Hope all is well.

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Ken , fellers..

Sorry for being out of loop....Earthquaked..I didn't feel it..it was about thirty miles north..one mile deep..whot I got from it was the crazy understanding of how good " they" can know where how and etc..4.7 richterish..?..

I have a Sherline lathe..and mill..combo..quite the cool machine..after center drilling the wheels...I soldered the wheels onto a shaft..chucked shaft turned wheels..un soldered..cleaned bores..ID with a center drill if they needed cleaning to fit the 1/8" th axle stock..

Wheels are epoxied onto axles..1/8 th axle stock is three scale inch..good enough for a light little tight little railway..

no progress on lokey..Uuum..I have made the wheelsets up...center sprockets on..the one longer end to accommodate the drive sprocket..is bare..

i am working out ground speed and batteries to be used..this dictates sprocket size..

the Phils NG motors are an un tested thing...It looks like one to one ratio will be right for 2.4 V...this is nice as the small sprockets come with an ID of 1/8 th " so it is press fit..at these low tourques ..keys not needed..


Now..we are up to date..There is a run day / open day at the Joshua tree and southern at the city of Joshua tree...in southern cal....the weekend of the 14 th march..starts I think on the thursday..?..googler ..it is all at your finger tips..I am planning to go..yay trains...

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Good to see you posting... I was about to ask if anyone had 'seen' you around.
Thanks for the tip on the wheels. I never thought of soldering to a shaft. I bet that loctite bearing mount would work too. I have a Unimat for my little hobby stuff.

Oh, I think you would like this... I just bought it for some of my 1:1 projects. (actually more like stole it... mine surplus stuff, no title, no biggie) It has a 25 foot boom and will pick a ton at 24 feet! :glad:

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OOOH!  I like!  I want!

Then we could retire our 1942 GMC CCKW with homemade boom on back!

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Herb, I would be tempted to trade, I LOVE that truck! I have an old REO with almost exactly that boom on it and a HUGE winch to power it. But it was given to me because the dummy who owned it bent the frame pulling to the side. I wanted to repair it, but it has become a 'yard sitter' and is of interest to those who visit our little town.

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Here's a pic of the REO while we were moving her to the display place. I really would like to repair her one day.

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I think we need to have a vintage boom track drag race.

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5 miles down the road in that GMC, and you would wonder how we ever won the war--the Germans must have had something even worse (sorry Helmut!)

Doesn't stop, steers like the tires are embedded in concrete, 5 speed crash gearbox thats main function is to provide various pitch howls and screams--and this is after a complete drive train rebuild -- but front and rear winches are handy at times. Have had the front wheels 5' off the ground trying to pull stumps with the rear one.

I would reckon that 0-60 is flat impossible (even though 5th is overdrive) but 0-35 might be done in under a minute, with gross over reving of the 270 cid 6 cylinder engine.

Prefer not to hear ''they don't make them like that anymore''

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This is all too cool for school! Keep going!

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I've never driven mine under power. I'm afraid it may never be restored. I must go turn the engine over one of these days. It did run good before it got bent...

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Ken Beaudreau herbacide fellers..

Whot a bunch of craniac truckin..old Army by the beis...and old others..A REO...dang it man..how cool is that..?..I asks ya,,..?...:moose::moose::moose:...and that newer..?..newish..rig..a ton at 24 foot.dang it man..pretty dang handy...here is another pitcher from up in the north woods..plenty of cooll old iron in this pitcher, kinda private museum..side of the road..

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:glad::rah::2t:

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Outrageous oxide Charley !

I guess it's OK to handle the 'exhibits' without white-gloves ?!

Cheers.

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fellers..

I been hijacked by the outside line..it is about as much fun as we can have...the inside line languishes for want of inside weather..when it heats up a bit..something might get done..I am at a stage where building a few buildings is needed..and the motivation is not present..has left the building,...the outside is getting the glory..the funding..the personel...higher ups sent orders down..etc etc..

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Hi Charley.

Looks like an awesome spring there...

...and AWESOME fun.

Bachmann can't easily beat the 'Lix 1:1' trainset !

All the best.

Cheers.

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Fantastic Charley!

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Si , Ken , fellers..

The thing has grown out of all proportion..scarce a year..april...has passed...the building has gone on..


The newest and latest / greatest ..is the passenger car..this car has pointed out some track issues..whe na train is pushing...things happen in train geometry..these wheels are picking the frogs..which points out that the guard rails have shifted abit ..a teensy..so they are slated for lag bolts and warshers...

The things also pointed out in trains operations..is that the free floating switch blades..adequate for one wagon...and lokey..do not stay in place for the orange blossom special...the first derailment of the lokey was today..having gone behind the blade of switch "A'...Lokey lifted on easily enough by hand..one of the reasons for having a 250# lokey...

I have since finished painting the passenger car.."Excelsior ,improved railway green"..

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Looks like fun!

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Has anyone heard from Charley since his post above?

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He still posts on the 7-8ths forum.

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Thanks. I wanted to contact him and maybe visit some day. Good to know he is OK.

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I've been wondering what happened to him, haven't seen him post here for quite a while.

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Charley wrote: ...
My point is..not much in the scheme of things..

1:35 th scale foot in thous..      0.0342 ...
 1 divided by 35 = .02857 (rounded up)
times 12 inches per foot = .3249"
or 325 thousandths if you round up 1 ten-thousandths
guess I did new math!

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southpier said :-

" 1 divided by 35 = .02857 (rounded up)
times 12 inches per foot = .3249"
or 325 thousandths if you round up 1 ten-thousandths "



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Mmm   .  .  .



I make it the same as Charley ...

... except that he got his decimal-point 1 place removed.



A 1:35 scale-foot in Thou." is :- 342.8571  Thou."  ...

... NOT !  :- 324.9000  Thou".  :P


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Si.

Charley<