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Hi all,
I found this video and thought some would be interested in it. What caught my in in this video is the turnouts, and the rotary coal dumper, enjoy! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=du-n0E3i648&feature=related

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Great link-It always surprises me what other people find ion Youtube that I miss, btw, was that a railroad/tram on a suspension bridge in there? hmmmm

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Ya, I think your right about the suspension bridge. I didn't even take notice of it until you mentioned it.

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Did you notice in the first part, that guy use his foot to throw the turnout?   Wonder how many toes were lost with that maneuver.
Also, a number of women working on it.

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Correct, from what I have seen (in this video and another of the same line) they all use their feet to throw switches. Also they use their hands for a lot of coupler maneuvers, so besides losing toes, they probably lost other body parts too. The women in the work is another good point, but the lack of organized labor is scary.

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The cost of labor-and life- must be cheaper there!

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Most likely, in fact I saw a video of a coal mine in China (Taiwan is an island off the coast of China) were the worker had no shoes!

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The coal coming out of the mine looks like it has already gone through a crusher.
Even seems too fine for one of those continuous mining machines, which would be doubtful because of all the cheap labor around. So they are either crushing it in the mine, before it gets loaded into the cars, or they are dropping the face with dynamite (shatters) rather than blasting powder (heaves large chunks). Either way- extra dusty down there!


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Herb, your right about the coal. I knew there was something about it that was different, and the size of it does suggest that something is going on in the inside, (thanks for pointing that out, I'm surprised I didn't think any of it)

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That is sure a neat video on the operation. Sure can give a person a lot of ideas.
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You bet with the video giving ideas, I think it would make a great on30 or on2 or on20 model with the hoist and winch system and the rotary dumper at the end. Who's up for the task!

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Woodie has done something close to this with much different scenery on the Mogollon. Still with the type of enviorment there, it would make great modeling. Too many neat idea to count . The little loco was great and I wish they had got more of it.
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Well you'll enjoy this video, at 1:43, and 2:56 there's more of this line, and it's locomotives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVD-l-pCmks

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Not a lot of environmental concerns either...

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Oh yea, definitely.

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Ok, through some long searching I found some good photos of the line in this video, now I just need to figure out how to post them:bang:

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Shame that they took that second video at the wrong speed, or something.



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I know, it would be so much more enjoyable if you could have a chance to know what your looking at.

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Ok, after some long surfing of the web I was able to get two good close up photos of one of the locomotives, so, here they are.






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Just noticed this thread. Guess I've been busy! As it happens, I scratch built a model of one of these critters in Gn15 many months ago and I am about to start a small diorama/shelf line featuring it. Wish I could figure out how to post photos because I would love to show you guys what it looks like and then progress on the shelf line.
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Hey Tom, sounds great! Here's a link on how to post photos http://www.freerails.com/view_topic.php?id=3111&forum_id=3
As a heads up I have found that Internet explorer works with this way of posting pictures but Google Chrome doesn't, nor does Chrome allow any way of posting pics.

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I have Safari.
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Sorry Tom, I wish I could help, but Safari is set up like Chrome on Free Rails, and I still haven't figured out Chrome.

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After watching the video, I would not drink the water in Taiwan period.
Regarding the switches, cheap and easy project for SM32 or Gn30.:!:

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Haha, ya that water was pretty foul. I'm glad you found something in the video to be a good model reference for whomever would want to take on the project.

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Noticed the thread and found that the coal mine was running on 498 mm or 19" gauge. With the other gauges in Taiwan being 762mm or 30" and 1067mm or 42", I am suprised that this treasure is not discussed more ofter.
It has definately made my to model list.
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Since I cannot seem to post photos here, my loco can be viewed on Flicker by looking up tom yorke or Thomas Yorke Design Studio. It is a bit of a bother I know, and there is that "other" Tom Yorke, the rocker, to deal with, but the photos are there.
Tom

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Tom-

Have you tried putting your photos on Photobucket, (free) and then clicking on the photo there and selecting the address line starting and ending with  [img]--then control C to copy, and control V to paste it into your message?

The address will show up in the window you are writing in, but if you go to "preview" the pix should show (and also in the post)

This is the way we used to have to do it, and it still works here---and in a lot of other sites-- the only disadvantage is that if you move, or delete, the pix on Photobucket, it disappears in your posted message.


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I had plenty of problems trying to send photos from my computer to the gallery here when I got the new computer with Windows 7. Herb's son solved the problem, maybe you need to do this also. Click on TOOLS and then click on COMPATABILITY SETTINGS to change things so your computer will operate with the FR gallery settings. Worth a try...

As for that coal mine video, pretty cool. As for modeling ideas, single point kick switches, rotary dumpers, hoists...I don't believe any of that is possible in model form. One would have to be crazy to try.

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WC , Tom , fellers..

Yeah.not possible..not atal..



AND..isn't Tom the rockstar..?..there are two..????

Tell me it is not so..

The lines at yu na ..featured it Charlie Small's railway to the mines..are on U toob...not much tiem ..but some of the stuff..and one {passenjare  train} being pushed across said suspense..ion bridge...

Did I mention I really like push car lines...

AND..there is a walking man U toob...in some japanese..show...a very nice one..I ahve a bunch of bookmarks...but no time now..

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Tom, excellent work on that critter :2t:
The model is spot on.

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I was based in Central Taiwan at Tai Chung for 18 months and road the Taiwan Railway quite a bit. The backward technology I saw along the right of way's was unbelievable.
It was almost 100% steam in those days... that part was fun!

Thanks for posting that video... Bob

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Hi Guys

Yeah...I like Tom's 'Frijole Flats' stuff ( and the rest ).

My pal Pat likes 'Radio-head'...

Mmmm...

...same dude, right ?

I just dig rock 'n' railroads !!!

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The Yanmar one cylinder diesel engines on the lokies make a pong-pong-pong-pong sound when running. I rode the Wu-lai line after it was converted from pushcar to three or four car trainsets with the first car being motorized. I think this line was like 21 inch gauge or something. I don't remember and my reference material is packed up right now.

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A side video from the OP video was of an Albanian coal mine operation. Although not as efficient as the Formosans, it also is a wing and a prayer type of operation. I especially liked the hand held "cantenary'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhXEQQk8G8&feature=related

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Herb Kephart wrote: The coal coming out of the mine looks like it has already gone through a crusher.
Even seems too fine for one of those continuous mining machines, which would be doubtful because of all the cheap labor around. So they are either crushing it in the mine, before it gets loaded into the cars, or they are dropping the face with dynamite (shatters) rather than blasting powder (heaves large chunks). Either way- extra dusty down there!


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Maybe digging out by hand with pickaxe. Thus the small crushed look.  Since all other operations (switching, dumping carts, ect) are done manually.  Maybe?

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RDye,
Those Albanians are CRAZY!. I do agree with you, the hand held electrical pickup is definitely something.
And Hiltz,
That's a good possibility, it makes sense.


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