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MDC Shay to On20
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 Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2011 12:52 am
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So I just bought a new MDC Rounhouse shay off ebay last week. After seeing Woodie's Gila Tram shay conversion I fell in love and vowed to have my own! I heard that these kits can be a real pain to make and I will post my progress on this thread. This will be my first loco build so it's gonna be a learning experience! :thumb: It's currently in the mail and the anticipation is killing me. Here is a picture of what mine is going to resemble. It's the Gila Tram (On20) shay. All credit to Woodie for building a fantastic model and giving us all inspiration!


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 Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2011 01:13 am
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Soon there will be nothing left of New Mexico but a huge hole in the ground with all these small mining operations, and their railroads springing up!


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 Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2011 01:33 am
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Howdy-thanks for the kind words. I have since changed the cab, I found an old Banta wood cab that looks even better. I think it was for a Porter (probably replaced the one I put on this loco) so I had to cut out the cylinder port and cut the boiler hole off center. I don't have any photos of this right now but if you want, it can be done. Otherwise, the loco is the same. I think the headlight and stack came from a Porter also. The steam dome is a PSC S scale dome and the bell & whistle are PSC O scale parts. I know whatever you come up with will look fine. This builds into what may be a 10 ton Shay in On20, just what I love. Remember that if you need any "advice" on this, let me know.

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 Posted: Wed Apr 6th, 2011 03:18 am
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There is something about these little shays that I love! The big ones are just to "mainline" for me. Yeah it'd be cool to see how your little shay has changed Woodie if you get the time :bg:. I think I might use a Banta cab but bash it so the roof has more of a curve if that makes since. Pictures coming as soon as it arrives in my mailbox!!

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 Posted: Thu Apr 7th, 2011 07:58 pm
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So I got my kit in the mail today!! I was very excited to open it (I've always wanted one). I was very pleased when I opened it and it looks like a ton of fun to build. Except one thing... IT CAME WITH NO DIRECTIONS!!! I got bamboozeld :bang:. Oh well that happens on ebay I guess every once in awhile. Anyone know of a website that I can find some intructions? I know they used to make a book but the books cost $135 on amazon now... Thats a lot for some pieces of paper! Any help would be awesome.

Bryan

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Hi,

If you don't think you can find a set of instructions I can scan a set of mine and email them to you.

What is the MDC item number?

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Hi,

Go to this link:

http://www.hoseeker.com/mdcinstructions.html

Look for the instruction information for the MDC Shay #360.

There are 18 pages of instructions and tips for building this kit and a several other MDC kits.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2011 02:42 pm
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Great info Bill. MDC made (maybe still do?) some very neat loco kits. Even though they were HO scale, just about any of them would build into fine On30 locos. The Shay is not that hard to build, matter of fact, making the driveline operate is about the hardest part of the whole thing. And there is a "tip" for that also. You only need one pinion gear to mesh with the geared wheel to make the driveline work. The easiest way to do this is to make the front wheel do the actual work and carefully cut the gears off the other wheels(NOT THE ACTUAL DRIVE GEARS-THE GEARS ON THE ONE SIDE!). Then the entire driveline will rotate properly, crankshaft will turn, and pistons will jump up & down...just like they should. If you decide to try to make the driveline work with all gears intact, while I suppose it can be done, you would soon need a rest on the coast or a trip to the mountains to recuperate. Remember that the driveline is COSMETIC and does not run the loco. Now how do I know this? Well, I have built and run many MDC Shays over the years and my little On20 Gila Tram Shay runs like a top (maybe a noisy top) and the driveline works just right. I learned this from an article in a long lost MR or maybe RMC so it ain't my idea. But it sure works.

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 Posted: Fri Apr 8th, 2011 05:46 pm
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Wow! Thanks everyone! Now I have instructions!!! I must admit I haven't been this excited to build a kit. It would probably be worth it to but NWSL gear and bull gear upgrades. Also a flat can motor, considering the one this came with is a open motor(?) everything is exposed. I'll keep ya'll posted!

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 Posted: Tue Apr 12th, 2011 01:43 am
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So here's the latest news on the MDC shay project ya'll. I have filed the boiler and from down to remove imperfections and flash on the castings. I still have to take some fine (1200-1500) sandpaper to it then polish it but it's a start! I, however, realized that I might have to get Wiseman Models backdate boiler for it becuase that boiler comes without the domes attatched leaving me able to put O scale domes on. If I used the boiler I have then  I would have to file the attatched domes all the way. What do you guys think??

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