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 Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 02:23 am
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Bob-since I don't have "as building" photos and I ain't gonna take her apart, I will try to describe some of the stuff. My inspiration for this loco comes from being familiar with Garratts for a long time but was fired up when Mudge lent me the Garratt Locomotive book. I read about little K1, the first (and still running in Wales) Garratt and knew I had to build something similar but more to my SW US tastes.  K1 has the cylinders facing each other like #4 and is the only Garratt to have this. The IHC HO Dockside chassis I used could be pivoted properly if the cylinders faced in also. The 2 Docksides came from Mudge, he had wanted to make such a loco but took pity on my sudden obsession.

The Docksides' motors were funky and as I explained, I had these 2 beautiful motors from the old word processor so the project began. I had to make 2 new motor mounts and do some serious cutting to be able to use the original worm gears on the new motors which now sit vertically over the geared drivers. Next I built the superstructure frame from heavy brass and square tubes-there are steel "pins" at each end which fit into holes in the chassis between the drivers on top of the frames. Now, the 2 chassis were "articulated" and the flat car like frame held them together as a unit. I built a square water tender and coal tender for each end and filled them with weights for tractive reasons. I embossed rivits in brass sheet which was wrapped around the tenders. The boiler is a piece of PVC tubing which hides the Kyosho r/c board and this was detailed with PSC large O scale whistle & bell and the steam dome & stack from a Bachmann On30 2-6-0. The plantation cab was built with the Bachmann cab roof supported by brass tubing. I used some bits of plastic for boiler backhead detail and a couple of military guys disguised as train crew. The onboard battery is a 7.4 volt Li-Poly and it is mounted under the cab & boiler, between the chassis. There was a bunch of piping and "stuff" under the real thing, so this looks OK to my eyes. When I came up with the buffers from some British freight car kit, the whole thing just "came together". Funny how just one thing can make such a difference. Paint is pretty much as you see, Tamiya black spray bomb did the work and the rods and valve gear were painted aluminum but now, the weathering has dulled that down. Bragdon chalks were used liberally to add nastiness and there she is.  #4 has just been rebuilt somewhat to get rid of gear noise in one chassis but is otherwise like when she rolled out of the shop.

Well, there you have it. The story about Mogollon Railway #4 proves that sometimes you can have your cake and eat it too!                  Woodrow



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 Posted: Thu Apr 16th, 2009 03:03 am
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:apl:Sweet!!!! Now I know what to do with some On30 Porters.



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Woodie that is one inspiring story :bow: Thank you !

 I  never take pictures when I build for a step by step tutorial either.  Heck, I don't even post pictures, something I need to get better at so you guys don't think I am just an arm chair modeler.  If I were closer for a day trip, I'd have too visit your work in person.;)

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 Posted: Fri Apr 17th, 2009 05:47 pm
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Bob-I never think that anybody would be interested in what I am building so I fail to document the process. Another thing is that when I build something, I don't want to stop for photos, I keep on till it's done and then think-"I should have had a V-8".  I do intend to take "in progress" photos of the smelter complex I am building since it is rather large (about 10 feet of building/s) and I will get tired of working on it from time to time. Garratt #4 has yet to run on the smelter tracks...when the rain clears then we'll see.     Woodie



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Why not Woodie?? You´re doing a very nice work on the Mogollon. Even though we don´t model the same scale, is very inspirational seeing other works and experiences. And yours is excelent as example of it, like many people here (Paladin, Hotshot, Ebtm, and the list continues!!)

Keep up sharing the good work! :thumb:



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Sometime a couple of weeks ago, Mogollon Railway's #4 Garratt fell off the Tres Diablos Canyon bridge and 2 full ore cars landed on top of her. The crew jumped in time, but the loco was a real mess. After some serious deliberations, the move was made to rebuild #4 and here's what she looks like now. This is "roughly" the same loco as before but with some big differences. Check the photos at the first of this thread to see what I mean.





It's too hot for any more jibber jabber so if there are any questions, let me know.

                                  Woodie



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Man- you did a bunch of converting in the rebuild. Looks like you even changed which axle is driven on each mechanism.

Looks like one of those "jack up the steam gage and slip a new loco under" jobs.

And the valve gear- the neat valve gear-----it's-----it's-------GONE!

No fair- you put the buffers on a different loco.

Herbie  :old dude:



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Herbie-you is just about right! The mechanicals have changed, when the loco hit the floor, one of the frames broke so I used a pair of....gulp...Thomas "Percy" frames that had many miles on them from Hobby Town. The drivers are larger, the wheelbase is longer, and NO valve gear. I may try to put the old vg on these, but that's sometime later. I want to replace the motors also but will have to wait till I can find (& afford) the proper ones. The "new" loco has a longer "sport model" look and a real cab..made from a Bachmann OF 2-8-0 cab which was built up and the sides opened up. #4 runs quite well and is in service now. Weathering & reporting marks will happen as will a working headlight (old #4 didn't have one) So, this is the "old sailor's knife"...same loco but different.

                                              Woodrow
PS-pardon the lousy photos..it's 105 degrees here and I didn't feel like standing outside taking a bunch of pix...maybe later....

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 Posted: Sun Aug 22nd, 2010 06:28 pm
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Woody, if you drove it off again, would the proper valve gear come back????

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Let's don't forget the Other American Garratt - Cavorite Mining's little red locomotive. Spotted on several micro-layouts and now apparently sold to a South Seas Island Resort!



A new project using my old Pelican 1500 case - Russ

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