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My previous attempts using WS armatures and clump foliage were ok, but a bit too much like plastic broccoli, so I have tried a couple of other techniques.

I really want to get my hands on some of that Sage Brush stuff, but haven't found a supplier over here yet.

In the mean time I have loads of WS armatures still so rather than admit defeat and banish them to ebay I had a go at improving them with some sea moss. This was broken off the stem in small amounts then glued on with contact adhesive. This tree is about 4.5" tall.



Whole lot then sprayed with Plasticote brown suede paint. Not as much texture as I'd hoped, but very matt.



  Next, a couple of bursts of white and black rattle can paint for some variation, toned down with more brown, then left to dry. Finally the usual spray with thin white glue and a good sprinkling of Noch Elm leaves and presto!



Not as good as a lot I've seen, but I'm quite pleased.

A bit more practice then I may attempt to model a specific species,,,

Phil

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Phil-

I think that it looks pretty darn good!!


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Well done Phil!!

Another example of Modeler ingenuity.

Take a so so product and making it a real head turner...cool!!

I know what you mean about the sage brush....:boohoo

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Stickboy wrote:
I really want to get my hands on some of that Sage Brush stuff, but haven't found a supplier over here yet.

 

Unless you have Sage Brush in the domestic UK you probably won't ever get it from the US.  The problem is Customs not taking to kind to shipping a plant by-product.

You've done very good with what you have!!!!

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Many thanks for the kind words, gentlemen!

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Unless you have Sage Brush in the domestic UK you probably won't ever get it from the US.  The problem is Customs not taking to kind to shipping a plant by-product.
That is as I suspected, and I suppose hard to argue against. What I should have done is stock up with some when I was in Indianapolis for the Motorcycle Grand Prix!

I don't know if sage brush grows here, it's a desert plant, right? There maybe a variant of it, I'll keep searching. I believe it's also called Worm wood (!)

SWMBO is fond of visiting "garden centre" type places, I'll keep my eyes open next time we go!

Phil


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Nothing wrong with those trees. Sometimes if you look in the brush hard enough you can find stuff that looks pretty close to sage brush.

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Sagebrush and wormwood are two different things if i remember correctly.

Be careful when looking around for wormwood-it may be an illegal/controlled substance. It's used to make Absinthe, which may or may not be illegal where you live.

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Very Nice job sir, Brilliant. where do u find sea moss? I too have several of the woodland scenics tree aramtures and don't want to waste them. I sat on the back patio where I can see the woods behind our house and using a mini pliers bent the heck out of the trunks and branches to match several of the trees in the woods that are close to what the trees in the kits look like. I even twisted several trunks as I noticed not all trunks are straight standing but bend and then twist around upright again so I have several unique shapes tomorrow I will try to get some photos of my trunks and post. Now I'm trying to figure out how to add branches before the lief frock, But I do like ur tree I think it looks way better than the clump foliage WS tells u to add. and as expense as WS tree trunks are I too am not willing to just toss them.

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I tried painting mine with light coats of grey and did not like how the tree looked afterword, is there a better way to paint them the grey color than just using light grey paint?
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Chris-try a light brown wash over the gray. It might add the dimension you want. Also, a bit of dry brushing white on the bark would add something. Try it and if it don't look like you want, repaint the tree. Above all, have fun.

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That's it really, just try to get a bit of variation in the trunk colour, I used a selection of rattle cans, fro speed, and because that's what I had on hand, but washes and/or drybrushing will work too.

Sea moss is marketed under various names, eg Forest in a Flash in the UK, and I think Supertrees in the USA. You can grow your own, which would make it very cheap!

And like Woodie says, have fun!!!

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I think it came out great. Nice job!

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Thanks  for  the  info  woody,  I  will  give  that a  try.    time  my  old  airbrush  got some use  again  been  in  the  box  way  to  long.

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Nice job!  Beats the heck out of the ordinary WS tree ... wouldn't even know it started as one of their armatures. :thumb:

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Thanks  Phil,

             You  can  grow your  own?   will  need  to0  look  into  that.  I  am  thinking  of  checking  into  our  two  craft  stores to  see  if  they  have  sea moss.  I  think  your  tree  looks  brilliant,  and  am  looking  foreword   to  trying  it  on  my  own.  and  like  yourself  I  am  wanting  to  turn  several  into  spacific  spicies,  such  as  birch,  maple,  etc.  Thank  You  again  Sir  for the  info  I  greatly  appreciate it.
       
                                                                                                  Cheers,
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found the moss at the local craf store. it's basically miniature lychin. which I know gets very brittle when it dries out. does the paint make it stronger? I know lychin gets so brittle after it dries out that just touching it causes it to turn to dust. and I would be afraid that trying to clean the trees from dust and cobwebs even with the keyboard vaccuum the moss would disitergrate like the lychin once it was dried out unless the paint makes it hard and a bit stronger?

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A solution of glycerine has been used in past model RR magazine articles to keep lichen from drying out.

Hang on, think there's a book which says - and is out of a box on a shelf.

while I'm off looking, lichen topic brings to mind this from news a couple days ago,
Usually, Tardigrades are 1 millimetre (0.039 in) long when they are fully grown. They are short and plump with 4 pairs of legs, each with 4-8 claws also known as "disks." The animals are prevalent in moss and lichen and, when collected, may be viewed under a very low-power microscope, making them accessible to the student or amateur scientist as well as the professional.[6][7]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade

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Ah, here we go, page 65, (c) 1991 How to build Realistic Model Railroad Scenery, Dave Frary, pub. Kalmbach Books.
Basic Lichen Preservation Solution 3 gallons water 1 gallon commercial grade glycerin (buy the cheapest commercial grade glycerin you can find; it will still be expensive)
He dyes and preserves at the same time, heating water, glycerin, dye solution to almost boiling is required. Then stuff pot with lichen and simmer for 5 minutes.

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Good info Kitbash(?), I will make a not of that recipe.

Chris, I have yet to harvest my first crop of Seamoss, I will report back with results when I do so! The commercially bought stuff is a little fragile, but the glue and paint do seem to lend it some strength.

I look forward to seeing your trees!

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That tree came out fine mate. Well done.

Rowan

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Took the first trees I made back apart today, I had made them several months ago but after rereading the forum and looking hard at them again. All I could see was brcccoli! so they were pulled clean and will start on another batch at some point.

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You're first tree was fine...no need to change it. Otheres will improve as you go. Remember, nature is full of variation.

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looked at spray paint at the store today, found battleship grey, flat black, grey primer, and dark brown. what colors should be used?

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Grey and brown to start. If funds allow, a light spray of black to the underside of the branches can give good definition.
Make sure you check out the pound shops for paint, scenery doesn't need the expensive stuff. Aim to spend around a quid per can, then you can buy more colours without breaking the bank, and experiment to find what works for you :brill:

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Any particular shade of grey and brown?

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Chris,

You are following in great footsteps. Paul Scoles introduced us to this method some years ago.

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