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Posted: Sun Dec 14th, 2008 12:13 pm |
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GOOD NEWS !
I stopped by a Radio Shack the other day and the RC cars that I used are available again. $14.00 on sale for $7.00.

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W C Greene Member

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Posted: Sun Dec 14th, 2008 03:54 pm |
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Bob-good deal on the car. NIKKO is outta business now, the Dallas Hobby Town bought the remaining inventory, I haven't seen these cars however. I will check it out when I go back to work next week. I am still looking for the ECO-MAN r/c tiny tanks. These make wonderful critters and Cletrack models. The tanks run very fast with the stock battery config., but when you wire the batteries in parallel, the tanks run nice & slow and charge time is greatly increased. Also, they become a lot easier to control.
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Posted: Mon Dec 15th, 2008 09:48 pm |
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Ok guys and gals, have to be politically correct...what is the advantage of the RC versus the cab control...right now I am not using anything except the older style blocking but want to convert soon...I can do 5 loco's for around 250.00 complete and that is not really shopping around...and they fit in my loco's..seems that using Rc is the same but maybe less cost but seems to be more work...I really do not know so I am asking...what is the advantage and it would seem that batteries are a possible problem and expense, plus changing them all the time or recharging garret
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Posted: Mon Dec 15th, 2008 11:47 pm |
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| Garret-what are the advantages to using radio control? How about never cleaning track & wheels, no track wiring, no blocks or rotary switches, no track wiring, very simple installation, no track wiring, no hassles with shorts or open circuits, more advantages than I can remember...and NO TRACK WIRING. So far, no model train manufacturer(except CVP Products and some Aussie companies) wants to invest in r/c, they have too much in dcc and don't want anything new. That $250 you mentioned would go a long way to "fix" maybe 5 or 6 locomotives. You could take your locos to anybody's layout, anywhere and be able to operate without any problems. And if that isn't enough, consider that kids these days are used to simple...put batteries in the thing and grab the joystick and start to play. If I was a kid today, there is no way I would read through volumes of printed matter to learn how to wire a model train layout, program the cv's, clean track, troubleshoot problems...I would get into r/c cars or airplanes..something that I could mess with now, not after I "learn the basics". Kids still love trains but when most find out what is involved, they do something else. Us model railroaders are playing with dinosaurs-some of us are playing with high tech dinosaurs. And one last reason to put r/c in trains-NO TRACK WIRING! Check out what Trebor, Brian and others have done...you can do r/c for less than the cost of an Athearn HO freight car kit. The cost is reason in itself to try radio control. I have said this before, once you run with radio, you will not go back to the old ways. If you have any questions, please ask and be sure to read the posts in what is the most watched thread anywhere. Whatever you decide to do, just have fun doing it. Woodie
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Posted: Tue Dec 16th, 2008 01:14 am |
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Garret, I was trying to get to you before Woodie but he beat me to the punch. Here is my answer:
Garret, Good questions. DC, DCC or RC are all good if they allow you to operate in an acceptable manner. By acceptable I mean acceptable to you. It’s your railroad after all.
I won’t go into the pros and cons of each but I will tell you why I like RC. I like small 0-4-0 critters running on switching layouts with lots of turnouts. The two just don’t go together very well. Those little critters stall so much it takes all the fun out of it. RC solved that problem for me. I also went to a larger scale to make things easier on these old eyes. And… I like to tinker and solve problems. It took me quite awhile to get to where I am now with RC but most importantly, I’m having FUN FUN FUN.
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Posted: Tue Dec 16th, 2008 06:59 pm |
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Hi all!
After a long -looooong- time, it was time for me to follow up on the ideas shown here on Freerails. With a small difference: it was no RC-car and it was priced at 8 Euro (is about $ 10).
On Saturday, my wife brought me a "Battle Wheels" robot home.

This is what the thing looked like, and since I'm not into fighting and stuff...

... I took it apart.

Getting the receiver out was easy, but the battary-compartiment is (was) on the downside of the frame, seen on the 2th picture. Much to big to use, so after about an hour of tearing an ripping, this is what was left of the robot. One could say, he lost his last battle 

Ready for experimenting with...

... the Regner motorunit (from the Diema, haven't made any progress with it...). It worked pretty well, as can be seen in this You-Tube video:
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TlRe0Zqto . It was fun , but I still think the Crest-system would be my first choice. Problem is getting it, since I live in Europe...
Best regards, Bart
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Posted: Tue Dec 16th, 2008 08:14 pm |
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| NOW THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Great job.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17th, 2008 03:07 am |
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What Woodie said above.
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Posted: Wed Dec 17th, 2008 07:33 pm |
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Thanks for all the imput on the r/c control, you are starting to wet my interest... so a few more questions... I see that you all use a r/c toy or car and then save the circuit board and battery pack... some how you then wire this up to the loco for the power and on, off and reversing.. so can you do this say for a atheran gp35... will the batteries power it and I would think you need to put the batteries in another car and wire them together somehow...correct as there would be no room in the shell...am I on the right "track" still...then I quess that engine power and lenght of running depends on the batteries... with some way to rechange them...most of the ones that I have sen are small loco's, I have not seen a gp or pa done this way..can they, would think that you would need a port some where on the loco for a recharging pin... and a coupler type looking pin connection at the back for hookup with the power unit..right or wrong...thanks for additional imput.. a greedy mind needs fed...garret
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Posted: Thu Dec 18th, 2008 01:47 am |
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I’m assuming you’re talking about HO. If so, you probably can’t fit the batteries inside and a training car would be necessary. You would also want more proportional control so you’d need to use a RC car that has proportional control not just on – off at full power. Or… the HO train engineer system would work. I use that with a 9-volt battery and it works just fine. An HO box car could easily hold the batteries and the board.
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