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OK guys & gals, here is something that old Herb sent me.
I wonder how many of you have ever seen something like this?

I have heard of such, but never, never have seen anything like what Herb hath wrought.
Thank you to the master of trackwork, Mopman will enjoy this almost as much as I will.

Now, I defy anybody to find a 4 way switch (turnout) available down at the local train shop...
if there is such, then please excuse me!

Now, enjoy...





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That is 'mazing.

Proves that old dogs do learn new tricks.  That could be interesting in a Inglebrook arrangement.  Great space saver.

Top marks Herbie.



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^That's exactly what i was thinking.

It'd also look good filled in with concrete on a traction layout, or a space saver in a large yard.

WOW, excellent!

Also, if you're in need of a big challenge, check out this page about subway and 3rd rail operaitons, look near the bottom.

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That IS cool looking.

One thing...how does it connect to track on the left?

There must be another bit for the connection we don't see to bring the rails down to a single set?

Nice work Herbie! :thumb:



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It's a stub switch, I will need to make the "moving" parts which will line up with the running rails. Got it figgered out already...

      Woodie



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Yep, stub would be the practical way.........really cool............

that'll make a great conversation piece ..........

I am assuming it will be used as a Yard throat Woodie ? :thumb:

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Yetter-it does have a "traction" look to it, that link you posted shows some very cool trackage.

This is a natural for space limitations-like what was found on many narrow gauge lines.
I will probably use it to begin a passing siding, run to a rotary dumper, and a small yard area...all in 1 switch!

I don't think Herbie was drinkin' single malt when he built this...maybe while he "imagined" it, but not in the building.
I checked it out with an NMRA gauge and it is right on.
 
Now if I could find the NMRA gauge when I build MY switches!

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ytter_man wrote:
Also, if you're in need of a big challenge, check out this page about subway and 3rd rail operaitons, look near the bottom.


:)


Shut my mouth, Jake!
That site is going to take some serious reading.
Didn't think that the Brits were using bullhead rail as late as some of the pictures show.

Also brings up a question that I've had for a long time - 
with chairs and bullhead, why are the wedges put on the outside of the rail?
Seem that there would be more force trying to spread the gauge, than trying to narrow it -
so the wedges would not give as solid a location, as the unwedged side of the chair -
or am I missing something?

Herbiscus :old dude:



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Also an interesting problem surfaced early in the construction.

I intended to make the "throw", or the amount that the moving rails travel sideways uniform, and started out that way.

But, and it's a big BUT,
with that arrangement the running rails in the area of the complex frog (left hand end)
needed guard rails and flangeways in the exact same place!

Even though the products of the Highlands distilleries could make this LOOK possible, I wasn't sure that I could pull it off sober.
That is why the rails at the left end are not evenly spaced -
one side of the rail is the flange side for one track and the other side of the same rail is the guard for the other track -
and I think that the same reason would prevent the creation of a five way switch.
 
Then again ---



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Yes Herb,
I figured out how to make this a 5 way...but it ain't gonna happen!

Maybe I will do a tracing of the 4 way and make the 5 job...
but I don't have any Scotch and Mopman only drinks Wellers & Budweiser so I will have to wait until he drops by to admire your work.
 
This is indeed a wonderful thing.

           Woodrow




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