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 Posted: Sat Jun 4th, 2011 11:00 am
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Good to see you back Harold.

Now: I've just won myself a Bachmann On30 Shay on eBay - has anyone ever tried to convert one of these to 5.5n3?

Anyone know what the overall width of this is? is it suitable?

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 Posted: Sun Jun 5th, 2011 04:29 pm
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tebee wrote: Good to see you back Harold.

Now: I've just won myself a Bachmann On30 Shay on eBay - has anyone ever tried to convert one of these to 5.5n3?

Anyone know what the overall width of this is? is it suitable?

Tom

The Bachmann On30 shay is too large to convert to 55n3.

The Bachmann HO shay using the Boulder Valley Models "On30" shay conversion is the right size just needs the cab roof lowered:



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Harold-did you build that cool little #7 Shay? I agree, the On30 Shay might be too large as is for your scale. Easier to "build up" than cut down.

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 Posted: Sun Jun 5th, 2011 05:09 pm
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W C Greene wrote: Harold-did you build that cool little #7 Shay? I agree, the On30 Shay might be too large as is for your scale. Easier to "build up" than cut down.

                   Woodie

That is from the Boulder Valley site.

Click here to visit Boulder Valley

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Ah, well I guess I may end up using that Shay in a Gn15 experiment then.

The Boulder Valley shay looks nice, but ends up a tad expensive by the time you add it to the cost of a Bachmann HO Shay - rather defeats the object trying to avoid the high cost of On30!

Harold - what maximum loading gauge are you working to for your 5.5n3 stuff - 12ft high by 8ft 6 wide?

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 Posted: Sun Jun 5th, 2011 11:18 pm
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hminky wrote: I wanted to model the 1870's in On30. MMI is bringing out a 1870's 4-
4-0, but $400 dollars, HOLY MOLY!!!!!. The Bachmann Mogul looks silly
with a ballon stack when you see it in person, it is an 1880's state
of the art loco, not 1870's

That is the original premise of the thread. When I posted this on several forums no one really read the post. Most On30er's just read the title and went ballistic.

I was just pointing out that to do the 1870's On30 was impossible. MMI hasn't built that loco and probably never will. Not enough interest in 1870's narrow gauge. This is four years ago to the day I posted that.

It can be done in 55n3 easily:



55n3 is basically the same price as On30.

Harold

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You haven't seen On30'ers go ballistic like they do when you mention that you use radio control instead of DC or DCC. A third rail subject for sure!

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W C Greene wrote: You haven't seen On30'ers go ballistic like they do when you mention that you use radio control instead of DC or DCC. A third rail subject for sure!

                  Woodie

You mean On2-1/2ers don't you:glad:

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Harold,
I've been visiting all the incarnations of your site for years now. I've posted links to your site on many forums I visit. I used your track weathering on HO track; I found it almost too time consuming for my lazy style of railroading BTW. I then used it in N scale on C55 and was pleased with my results.

All of your work is interesting, but I do find your original post on here sort of off putting. I'm sure you don't mean it that way, but scale and gauge snobbery really gets tiresome. I've been rubber gauging it for years now. Recently I got onto OO/HO scale outdoor modelling and found myself posting on a G scale garden site. I got a few nasty comments there as people felt invaded by the small scale garden guy coming on their G scale site. One guy basically told me, We don't want to see what you are doing... Go somewhere else.

I am very interested in seeing your latest modelling progress, I like trains you see. But you really do come off a bit heavy handed in your comments at times. Regarding your diesel comment; I say come to the dark side my friend. ;) All will be fine once you assimilate. he he he

Post up some nice pics, the proof is in the pudding as they say. :)



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hi...I don't know whether you people in the US have had the same sort of access to a bargain as ourselves in the UK, but earlier on this year, I purchased [off eBay] a couple of Bachmann On30 2-6-0 locos very cheaply...as in under £30 each....[you'll need to convert to your own chosen currencies for comparison]....

They were in the disguise of Hawthorne Village locos...

OK, they need a strip 'n spray...but the basis is there for whatever you wish...and they're 'new'...as against, someone-else's ex-nightmare?


Now..what to do with them? [and...the odd items of B/mann On30 stock I've garnered from special offers, etc?}

Track gauge is really an irrelevance to me...I'll make my own anyway....

Since many of B/mann's 'prototypes' were actually 3 foot gauge...rather than 2 foot 6, is it at all easy to regauge the 2-6-0's?
[maybe widen the cylinder block, for example?]

[I have read of re-gauging the B/mann forney to 2 foot...seems an easy job]

For cheapness, I wasn't really interested in BUYING ON3 trucks....altering for gauge will likely involve similar processes as we have, in the UK, when converting from OO to EM....[4mm scale, converting from 16.5mm track gauge...under-scale..to 18.2mm gauge..somewhat nearer scale]


Given the cost of ON3 equipment, maybe this way is another option....? Has anybody taken it?

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